Graham P Davis wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:01:36 +0000
Dave Cornwell wrote:

As for pensions, I agree
they have become a disgrace but we shouldn't be moaning about people
benefiting from decent ones - we should be getting the other schemes
up to a better standard. The UK is right near the bottom of the
league in Europe in terms of pension benefits.

Yes, the problem all started with companies taking a holiday from
adding to the pension pot when investments were doing well. Lined their
own pockets instead and then picked the pockets of their employees when
the stock market wasn't doing so well.

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Exactly what mine did.

On Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:34:50 UTC, General wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ...

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Is this special pleading on behalf of UKMO (in which case I don't think the
case has been made) or do you think everyone in the country should get a pay
rise? Do you have the keys to the money-making machine? I certainly don't..
With a public debt that's potentially going to be absolutely ruinous for
future generations, surely any sane person can see the rationale for having
to keep the lid on public expenditure?

They're only asking (I suspect) for a pay increase in line with inflation. What's so wrong with that?

I am afraid I am absolutely, vehemently, 100% opposed to public spending cuts. They are impacting upon people's lives and public services. Even if you are the sort of person who only thinks in numbers and has no morals, public spending cuts mean less money for public sector workers to spend means less products sold means less profit for the private sector.

Why the hell should the ordinary person pay for the actions of the global finance industry which caused the recession in the first place? Well they should, of course, because George Osborne wants to please them so that he can get a place on the board of some member of that global finance industry. We are _not_ a poor country, a simple walk round virtually anywhere in southern England reveals that there are a lot of rich people around owning million-pound properties. The problem is that the political dogma that both the Tory and Labour parties have subscribed to since 1979 means that it's somehow seen as less bad to impose public spending cuts than to increase taxes for those who can afford it.

It simply isn't fair that ordinary people should be the ones paying for the recession. Sadly "life isn't fair" is the mantra of the modern politician.

On Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:34:50 UTC, General wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ...

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Is this special pleading on behalf of UKMO (in which case I don't think the
case has been made) or do you think everyone in the country should get a pay
rise? Do you have the keys to the money-making machine? I certainly don't..
With a public debt that's potentially going to be absolutely ruinous for
future generations, surely any sane person can see the rationale for having
to keep the lid on public expenditure?

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They're only asking (I suspect) for a pay increase in line with inflation. What's so wrong with that?

I am afraid I am absolutely, vehemently, 100% opposed to public spending cuts. They are impacting upon people's lives and public services. Even if you are the sort of person who only thinks in numbers, of which George Osborne is the prime example, public spending cuts mean less money for public sector workers to spend means less products sold means less profit for the private sector.

Why the hell should the ordinary person pay for the actions of the global finance industry which caused the recession in the first place? Well they should, of course, because George Osborne wants to please them so that he can get a place on the board of some member of that global finance industry. We are _not_ a poor country, a simple walk round virtually anywhere in southern England reveals that there are a lot of rich people around owning million-pound properties. The problem is that the political dogma that both the Tory and Labour parties have subscribed to since 1979 means that it's somehow seen as less bad to impose public spending cuts than to increase taxes for those who can afford it.

It simply isn't fair that ordinary people should be the ones paying for the recession. Sadly "life isn't fair" is the mantra of the modern politician.