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Ballot papers are going out now.
Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 11:41:25 AM UTC, wrote:
Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Militant meteorologists eh? Does this mean we won't get any weather during the time they are on strike? 🤔 |
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:41:19 -0000, "Eskimo Will"
wrote: Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will The strikes might push some customers towards other providers :-) Anyone who isn't happy with their lot in the Met Office is free to go elsewhere. It's what I did 49 years ago and never retretted the decision. There's far more opportunities today than there were when I jumped ship. |
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On Friday, 22 January 2016 11:41:25 UTC, wrote:
Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions Come Friendly Strike on Exit Door You know you want to, that's what its for And when in time those in are out You'll see delivered 100% clout Whilst management with balding head Will drink more tea nor wish you dead. But let you all do as you wish For the forecast here be dawlish He's getting warm. Is he there yet? |
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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:41:19 -0000, "Eskimo Will" wrote: Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will The strikes might push some customers towards other providers :-) Anyone who isn't happy with their lot in the Met Office is free to go elsewhere. It's what I did 49 years ago and never retretted the decision. There's far more opportunities today than there were when I jumped ship. Too right. If you aren't happy in a very well-paid, degree+ level job, there are lots of opportunities to work elsewhere, but you have to put effort in to find them. The MetO employees want life as cushy as they can make it. No-one in the general public gives two hoots whether they strike, or not. Why not try teaching? There's a nice easy life for a good mathematician, or scientist? Most MetO employees wouldn't last a day. |
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On Friday, 22 January 2016 16:54:39 UTC, dawlish wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:41:19 -0000, "Eskimo Will" wrote: Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will The strikes might push some customers towards other providers :-) Anyone who isn't happy with their lot in the Met Office is free to go elsewhere. It's what I did 49 years ago and never retretted the decision. There's far more opportunities today than there were when I jumped ship. Too right. If you aren't happy in a very well-paid, degree+ level job, there are lots of opportunities to work elsewhere, but you have to put effort in to find them. The MetO employees want life as cushy as they can make it.. No-one in the general public gives two hoots whether they strike, or not. Why not try teaching? There's a nice easy life for a good mathematician, or scientist? Most MetO employees wouldn't last a day. Isn't that a bit of a generalisation? There's some great minds in there. As for a 'nice easy life' teaching those jobs are probably in the minority. A couple of teachers I know who, admittedly both in inner London schools, spend most lessons practising crowd control rather than actual teaching -- ------------------------------ *This email was sent by a company owned by Financial Times Group Limited ("FT Group http://aboutus.ft.com/corporate-information/#axzz3rajCSIAt"), registered office at Number One Southwark Bridge, London SE1 9HL. Registered in England and Wales with company number 879531. This e-mail may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, delete all copies and do not distribute it further. It could also contain personal views which are not necessarily those of the FT Group. We may monitor outgoing or incoming emails as permitted by law.* |
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On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 8:20:21 PM UTC, Scott W wrote:
On Friday, 22 January 2016 16:54:39 UTC, dawlish wrote: On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:41:19 -0000, "Eskimo Will" wrote: Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will The strikes might push some customers towards other providers :-) Anyone who isn't happy with their lot in the Met Office is free to go elsewhere. It's what I did 49 years ago and never retretted the decision. There's far more opportunities today than there were when I jumped ship. Too right. If you aren't happy in a very well-paid, degree+ level job, there are lots of opportunities to work elsewhere, but you have to put effort in to find them. The MetO employees want life as cushy as they can make it. No-one in the general public gives two hoots whether they strike, or not. Why not try teaching? There's a nice easy life for a good mathematician, or scientist? Most MetO employees wouldn't last a day. Isn't that a bit of a generalisation? There's some great minds in there. As for a 'nice easy life' teaching those jobs are probably in the minority. A couple of teachers I know who, admittedly both in inner London schools, spend most lessons practising crowd control rather than actual teaching -- ------------------------------ *This email was sent by a company owned by Financial Times Group Limited ("FT Group http://aboutus.ft.com/corporate-information/#axzz3rajCSIAt"), registered office at Number One Southwark Bridge, London SE1 9HL. Registered in England and Wales with company number 879531. This e-mail may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, delete all copies and do not distribute it further. It could also contain personal views which are not necessarily those of the FT Group. We may monitor outgoing or incoming emails as permitted by law.* You missed my irony, Scott. Teaching is an incredibly difficult job, beyond most in the MetO. |
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On Friday, 22 January 2016 20:35:20 UTC, dawlish wrote:
You missed my irony, Scott. Teaching is an incredibly difficult job, beyond most in the MetO. Especially with some ******* from OFSTED watching your every move. Tudor Hughes. |
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On 22/01/2016 22:13, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Friday, 22 January 2016 20:35:20 UTC, dawlish wrote: You missed my irony, Scott. Teaching is an incredibly difficult job, beyond most in the MetO. Especially with some ******* from OFSTED watching your every move. Tudor Hughes. Wasn't there an old joke - those that can. do; those that can't, teach; those that can't teach, become head teachers. I suppose you can add that those who can't become head teachers, become Ofsted Inspectors (based on a population of one). |
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On Friday, 22 January 2016 20:35:20 UTC, dawlish wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 8:20:21 PM UTC, Scott W wrote: On Friday, 22 January 2016 16:54:39 UTC, dawlish wrote: On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 12:37:35 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:41:19 -0000, "Eskimo Will" wrote: Ballot papers are going out now. Seems they are taking a lead from the doctors. Members are being asked to vote on the following escalating action: 1. A three-hour walkout with some exceptions for critical staff 2. A three-hour walkout with no exceptions 3. A 24-hour stoppage with no exceptions That's the first time I have seen "no exceptions" in a proposal. Could be interesting as the mood is militant. In fact I have never seen such anger amongst my former colleagues, who I still meet occasionally. The main concerns are lack of progress on many geneder equal pay issues (yes some women still get less pay for equal work and equal length of service - unbelievable), falling pay levels compared to similar jobs outside and an absolutely appalling internal progression system. Some staff who have been at the MetO 10 years are still deemed to be "in development zone" even when they are contributing a lot. Also the government still maintains that the MetO is the "jewel in the UK crown of science", then if that's the case, pay them appropriately Cameron, you tosser. Will The strikes might push some customers towards other providers :-) Anyone who isn't happy with their lot in the Met Office is free to go elsewhere. It's what I did 49 years ago and never retretted the decision. There's far more opportunities today than there were when I jumped ship. Too right. If you aren't happy in a very well-paid, degree+ level job, there are lots of opportunities to work elsewhere, but you have to put effort in to find them. The MetO employees want life as cushy as they can make it. No-one in the general public gives two hoots whether they strike, or not. Why not try teaching? There's a nice easy life for a good mathematician, or scientist? Most MetO employees wouldn't last a day. Isn't that a bit of a generalisation? There's some great minds in there.. As for a 'nice easy life' teaching those jobs are probably in the minority. A couple of teachers I know who, admittedly both in inner London schools, spend most lessons practising crowd control rather than actual teaching -- ------------------------------ *This email was sent by a company owned by Financial Times Group Limited ("FT Group http://aboutus.ft.com/corporate-information/#axzz3rajCSIAt"), registered office at Number One Southwark Bridge, London SE1 9HL. Registered in England and Wales with company number 879531. This e-mail may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately, delete all copies and do not distribute it further. It could also contain personal views which are not necessarily those of the FT Group. We may monitor outgoing or incoming emails as permitted by law.* You missed my irony, Scott. Teaching is an incredibly difficult job, beyond most in the MetO. Is that why you failed ? |
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