I am personally not a believer, so of course I don't think that's the
case.

However, since so many of my fellow Americans are believers, and we are
always saying "God bless America", what happened here?

Anyone think its ironic that this disaster occurred less than a year
after President Bush was re-elected, and it targeted the portion of the
country where a majority voted for him?

Anyone think it is God punishing NO for its 'sinful ways'?

Anyone think that Al Quaeda is thinking these thoughts?

Again, I don't agree with them (because I'm not a believer, I think
this was just bad luck), but for those who do believe, anyone think
there is a correlation?

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No....out of that business circa last great flood--(see Noah)

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I am personally not a believer, so of course I don't think that's the
case.

However, since so many of my fellow Americans are believers, and we are
always saying "God bless America", what happened here?

Anyone think its ironic that this disaster occurred less than a year
after President Bush was re-elected, and it targeted the portion of the
country where a majority voted for him?

Anyone think it is God punishing NO for its 'sinful ways'?

Anyone think that Al Quaeda is thinking these thoughts?

Again, I don't agree with them (because I'm not a believer, I think
this was just bad luck), but for those who do believe, anyone think
there is a correlation?

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/


Well....let me just make a few points:

1.) For the last few years, thanks to the ACLU and other anti-American
entities, God has been removed from practically every facet of American
life.
2.) Thanks to activist judges, rather than the will of the people and
legitimate legislation by Congress, unborn children have been slaughtered
by
the thousands for the sake of convenience since Roe Vs. Wade.
3.) Hollywood continues to be a sewer line, spewing garbage into theaters
and American homes, and homes worldwide.
4.) New Orleans is a haven for "religions of death" such as voodoo and
santeria, and is known for its debauchery and depravity (especially during
Mardi Gras).
5.) Thailand, the center of the tsunami that killed many and devastated
the
area, is home to many Muslims and is a training and recruiting area for
terrorist Islamic extremists.

Is it any wonder they got a Tsunami, and we got 9/11 and now this terrible
hurricane?

If there *is* a moral and all-powerful entity (and I personally *do*
believe
in God) wouldn't you think he or she would be mighty ****ed at the affairs
of late in this world?

The One True Rusty wrote:
If there *is* a moral and all-powerful entity (and I personally *do*
believe
in God) wouldn't you think he or she would be mighty ****ed at the affairs
of late in this world?

I would think, rather, that you are attributing some sadly human
attributes to an infinitely compassionate being, in other words, casting
God in your own image.
--
St. John

Seeing the huge dust devils on Mars, the large vortices (some
persistent
for centuries) on Jupiter and Saturn, one can only conclude that
vortices
of all sizes and strengths are properties of planetary atmospheres.
(Who would God be punishing on those planets?)

BTW, a vast minority of people in Thailand are Muslims.

On 2 Sep 2005 03:43:10 -0700, "
wrote:

Seeing the huge dust devils on Mars, the large vortices (some
persistent
for centuries) on Jupiter and Saturn, one can only conclude that
vortices
of all sizes and strengths are properties of planetary atmospheres.
(Who would God be punishing on those planets?)

BTW, a vast minority of people in Thailand are Muslims.


This will no doubt come as a surprise to the people in Thailand.

The One True Rusty wrote:

snip
5.) Thailand, the center of the tsunami that killed many and devastated
the
area, is home to many Muslims and is a training and recruiting area for
terrorist Islamic extremists.


"Thailand, the centre of the tsunami"? If it was, there wouldn't have been a
tsunami. Anyway, I think the main religion of Thailand is Buddhism, not
Islam.

Graham

Seeing the huge dust devils on Mars, the large vortices
(some
persistent
for centuries) on Jupiter and Saturn, one can only conclude
that
vortices
of all sizes and strengths are properties of planetary
atmospheres.
(Who would God be punishing on those planets?)


See.....Ya just proved there's life on mars!!

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wrote:
I am personally not a believer, so of course I don't think that's the
case.

However, since so many of my fellow Americans are believers, and we are
always saying "God bless America", what happened here?

Anyone think its ironic that this disaster occurred less than a year
after President Bush was re-elected, and it targeted the portion of the
country where a majority voted for him?

Anyone think it is God punishing NO for its 'sinful ways'?

Anyone think that Al Quaeda is thinking these thoughts?

Again, I don't agree with them (because I'm not a believer, I think
this was just bad luck), but for those who do believe, anyone think
there is a correlation?

=====
Raymond C. Martin, Jr.
Associate Meteorologist, AccuWeather Inc.- http://www.accuweather.com/
New Jersey Expressways and Tollways - http://www.njfreeways.com/
Ray's Winter Storm Archive - http://www.njfreeways.com/weather/



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On 1 Sep 2005 18:18:28 -0700, wrote:
I am personally not a believer, so of course I don't think that's the
case.

This is in the category of spirituality or religion and not science,
and can't really be proven, but I'll give my take.

No, I don't think "God" is punishing us. We suffer consequences of
our actions. A person that puts his hand on a hot pan and leaves it
there isn't being punished. It's just the consequence of doing that
action.

I put "God" in quotes because it could be understood to be a
metaphoric concept for atheists.

As far as athiests and people of different beliefs, I find plenty of
them to be moral, kind, and just doing their best like everyone else.
People from all spiritual/religious beliefs believe they are "saved"
and "right" from their points-of-views.