On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:01:22 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:32:42 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:24:10 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Sounds like it is endemic and not just the Cols and Richard Dixons of this world who are more than a touch dawlish:


Wow, I get a mention!!
For what do I deserve this incredible honour?

For not being a racist despite an appetite for rain and wet grass. Besides you keep getting up despite me knocking you down all the time. There is something to be said for someone that gormless. (Your very stupid!)

What a wonderful, completely nonsensical reply!
You know it's almost a pity that when I get back home tomorrow and no longer have to use Google Groups you will be back in the killfile and I won't see your entertaining replies. Go on, say something disparaging about killfiles, you know you want to!

Col

On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:05:17 UTC+2, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:01:22 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:32:42 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:24:10 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Sounds like it is endemic and not just the Cols and Richard Dixons of this world who are more than a touch dawlish:


Wow, I get a mention!!
For what do I deserve this incredible honour?

For not being a racist despite an appetite for rain and wet grass. Besides you keep getting up despite me knocking you down all the time. There is something to be said for someone that gormless. (Your very stupid!)

But on with the game. The Met Office in its wisdom has derided that the Great British Pubic, now that we are once again on our own. is ready for Jet Streams

Which puts us in the same boat vis a vis the Canadians as the USA has been in since Presidunce Arthur the man who single-handedly put an end to the cowboy era outside of hollywood:

"General Hazen first misrepresents, and then proceeds to demolish the shadow of his own creation. I did not say that the storm will cross eastward over the Rocky Mountains. On the contrary, it will originate in the " Northern Pacific," and will proceed directly westward, in an opposite direction, and will reach the Rocky Mountains from the east after having passed round the world. This may seem astounding to the general, but astronomers treat of the causes while meteorologists treat only of the effects.

A stratum of atmosphere covering half the continent might move from these mountains to the Atlantic, and the fact be unknown if moving in a plane one or two miles above the earth's surface. The last transit of Venus, Dec. 6th, 1882, afforded the most positive proof as to the scientific reliability of my theory of continental storms."

Although he had not grasped the concept of cold fronts being synonymous with the volcanic activity; he had no way of knowing, always follows storms this Canadian had a good grasp of planetary waves even if he did overly dramaticize his weather forecasts.

https://archive.org/details/cihm_25726

Put it in context: How alarmist would I have had to have been when I noticed that the dart-boarding pointed out to me by Bjorn Soerheim on this group, just prior to the Boxing Day disaster in 2004 had the scale of earthquake I failed to forecast, to gain enough traction to save even one person?

He stopped issuing forecasts but 1883 was the start of the Little Ice-Age (since hidden or played down by the flowerpotmen) and was the year that krakatau blew up.

Shouldn't that be


"you're very stupid"?

It kinda of takes the edge of it a tad.

I missed that what with the general insanity of his reply. The irony of it would simply fly over his head anyway.

Col

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 03:37:11 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 21:01:22 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:32:42 UTC+1, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:24:10 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:


Sounds like it is endemic and not just the Cols and Richard Dixons of this world who are more than a touch dawlish:


Wow, I get a mention!!
For what do I deserve this incredible honour?

For not being a racist despite an appetite for rain and wet grass. Besides you keep getting up despite me knocking you down all the time. There is something to be said for someone that gormless. (Your very stupid!)

What a wonderful, completely nonsensical reply!
You know it's almost a pity that when I get back home tomorrow and no longer have to use Google Groups you will be back in the killfile and I won't see your entertaining replies. Go on, say something disparaging about killfiles, you know you want to!

Col

I will, as you have done. You enjoy his reply and will kill nevertheless kill file him. Who's the worse, you, or he?

You'll peek anyway and see vicariously through other people's replies, so exactly why are killfiling this idiot?

On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 17:24:10 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:

dawlish - again.

Keep it up, W. The entertainment value is high.

BTW 1/17 now. No Mag 7 on the 24th - a clear forecast. There is an average of one Mag 7 earthquake each month, worldwide, but despite trying several times, you just haven't got lucky, have you?

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 09:52:19 UTC+2, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 17:24:10 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:

dawlish - again.

Keep it up, W. The entertainment value is high.

Indeed it is, his reply to me certainly made me smile!

BTW 1/17 now. No Mag 7 on the 24th - a clear forecast. There is an average of one Mag 7 earthquake each month, worldwide, but despite trying several times, you just haven't got lucky, have you?

I was wondering whether he had predicted the Italian earthquake, never quite sure in all the mumbo-jumbo. There was also one in Myanmar as well. Did he get that one?

Col

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 15:12:11 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 25 August 2016 09:52:19 UTC+2, wrote:
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 17:24:10 UTC+1, Weatherlawyer wrote:

dawlish - again.

Keep it up, W. The entertainment value is high.

Indeed it is, his reply to me certainly made me smile!

BTW 1/17 now. No Mag 7 on the 24th - a clear forecast. There is an average of one Mag 7 earthquake each month, worldwide, but despite trying several times, you just haven't got lucky, have you?

I was wondering whether he had predicted the Italian earthquake, never quite sure in all the mumbo-jumbo. There was also one in Myanmar as well. Did he get that one?

Col

No. He predicted a mag 7 on the 24th. Mag 7's occur, on average and somewhere in the world, about one a month, so if he does it often enough, he's bound to get one right. This is, I think, the third time he's had a go in the last month, though the others were far less specific and shrouded, as you say, in mumbo-jumbo. No Mag 7 on Aug 24th and of the forecasts I've been able to disentangle from the deliberate curtains of gobbledygook, he's got exactly *one correct out of 17* that I've monitored. Even that one was generous, as I couldn't quite tell if it was a forecast, or not (usual).

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:54:20 UTC+2, wrote:


No. He predicted a mag 7 on the 24th. Mag 7's occur, on average and somewhere in the world, about one a month, so if he does it often enough, he's bound to get one right. This is, I think, the third time he's had a go in the last month, though the others were far less specific and shrouded, as you say, in mumbo-jumbo. No Mag 7 on Aug 24th and of the forecasts I've been able to disentangle from the deliberate curtains of gobbledygook, he's got exactly *one correct out of 17* that I've monitored. Even that one was generous, as I couldn't quite tell if it was a forecast, or not (usual).

Thing is despite the gobbldegook it is clear that a great deal of time and effort goes into this, he has a blog too. He's been at it since at least 1998(when I joined usw) so he obviously thinks he's onto something. If only the presentation was better, and he wouldn't become so defensive when asked about his ideas, people might be able to understand what he is talking about rather than simply dismissing him as a 'nutter'.

Col

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:02:40 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:54:20 UTC+2, wrote:


No. He predicted a mag 7 on the 24th. Mag 7's occur, on average and somewhere in the world, about one a month, so if he does it often enough, he's bound to get one right. This is, I think, the third time he's had a go in the last month, though the others were far less specific and shrouded, as you say, in mumbo-jumbo. No Mag 7 on Aug 24th and of the forecasts I've been able to disentangle from the deliberate curtains of gobbledygook, he's got exactly *one correct out of 17* that I've monitored. Even that one was generous, as I couldn't quite tell if it was a forecast, or not (usual).

Thing is despite the gobbldegook it is clear that a great deal of time and effort goes into this, he has a blog too. He's been at it since at least 1998(when I joined usw) so he obviously thinks he's onto something. If only the presentation was better, and he wouldn't become so defensive when asked about his ideas, people might be able to understand what he is talking about rather than simply dismissing him as a 'nutter'.

Perhaps you should try asking him and being a little more circumspect how you do so. OTOH if you had the brains you were born with you would appreciate that.

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 18:24:09 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:02:40 UTC+1, wrote:

Thing is despite the gobbldegook it is clear that a great deal of time and effort goes into this, he has a blog too. He's been at it since at least 1998(when I joined usw) so he obviously thinks he's onto something. If only the presentation was better, and he wouldn't become so defensive when asked about his ideas, people might be able to understand what he is talking about rather than simply dismissing him as a 'nutter'.

Perhaps you should try asking him and being a little more circumspect how you do so. OTOH if you had the brains you were born with you would appreciate that.

Well I have done in the past because believe it or not, I am actually interested. However I got nowhere.

So OK, please could you tell me, clearly & concisely, the basis by which you predict earthquakes?
No meandering ramblings about goodness knows what, no wet sheep, no flowerpot
men and definately *no* Dawlish

Thanks.

Col

On Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:48:54 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 25 August 2016 18:24:09 UTC+2, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:02:40 UTC+1, wrote:

Thing is despite the gobbldegook it is clear that a great deal of time and effort goes into this, he has a blog too. He's been at it since at least 1998(when I joined usw) so he obviously thinks he's onto something. If only the presentation was better, and he wouldn't become so defensive when asked about his ideas, people might be able to understand what he is talking about rather than simply dismissing him as a 'nutter'.

Perhaps you should try asking him and being a little more circumspect how you do so. OTOH if you had the brains you were born with you would appreciate that.

Well I have done in the past because believe it or not, I am actually interested. However I got nowhere.

So OK, please could you tell me, clearly & concisely, the basis by which you predict earthquakes?

Yes

No meandering ramblings about goodness knows what, no wet sheep, no flowerpot
men and definately *no* Dawlish

I could also do that but first I should like you to apologise to the group for the blustering stupidity you have shown it. Setting working conditionsconditions for a master is not the job description of a pupil.

Thanks.

No need for thanks I am more than willing to engage in useful conversation about interesting things.

Whilst we are waiting; perhaps it would be an idea to go over my posts to clear up what it is I actually said, as opposed to what Stooopid has imputed to the easily led, just so we can appreciate how much gobledegook there actually was:

This bit is going to be a rehash with no explanations but some obvious corrections that you can compare with the originals above if you need to, while the group awaits the development I require...

The OP:

23 August 2016.
Dart boards and catherine wheels all leading this hot weather down the garden path where wet sheep never stray. Like magnets to truth there is nothing in it for them.

Funny how the "little man" is aways in to lunch when the flower pots do come out to hoppity hop. Someone much [must] have asked him a pertinent question about his garden. Like why he hasn't caught Bill or Ben and what he is looking after too. All a little weeed, in my opinion. So what is about the North Atlantic that the flower people are allergic to?

As I was goin' over the weather charts this morning I saw a fiery Catherine wheel sparking and dart boarding
It came first with a delta that signalled windstorms pending as well a pair of cold fronts but one was just then ending

I looked at what was spinning to guess where it was going but it spun right through the run and for me there was no knowing
I took a look at the EFS set up in America and it confirmed an earthquake in cyclones across Canada
But who can trust the NA-EFS?
In truth there is no knowing and the delta for derechos was then not long in going
But the devil take tornadoes and the Blocking Lows tormenting. I'm watching out four horsemen and the grave-yard they're extending.

To the devil withal shelter if what I'm comprehending to the pit has come Abyssal and like locusts are ascending
Red wove war away we go red rove war away we go off to Armageddon.

But come the twenty fourth there will be no more pretending! If it's out of Vanuatu in Chile it is ending
But if it's out of Tonga to the north winds it is going already west of China see the red dots already glowing.
I wish you well Abaddon the servant of your master whatever you are doing get it done now and faster.

As seeing to believing is god's will to disaster if you will take no notice go find a better master. As forecasts are to warnings is freedom to ignoring as Venus to the day star sings halos in the morning.

******

Some pathetic poetry based on the metre of an Irish ditty. My second post alluded to the forthcoming denialism that there was actually an accurate forecast in my first post -which was about the attempts to unravel a windstorm's forecast:

So much for the earthquake and the line-storm (http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/today.html) if anyone is still interested the volcano is next. Don't all shout at once (you can Dawlish) but please bear in mind you had your chance:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...er/AgL__YlGV9E

But why let a good thread go to waist when the fat is in your head already!

And not only was my poem about the forecast spot-on, my forecast about Dawlish rushing in where angels fear to tread, was even better.

******

It is interesting to note the lack of sypathy extended to those who are still at this very moment dealing with an earthquake that I had forecast accurately enough over in the earthquake forum. But the met office whose chart i had just been commenting upon had posted to their blog about some so called research they had been carrying out instead of spending more time on their fundamental job of examining meteors.

But no a slight digression about the term meteorology. Around about the time of the first artists impressions of a windstorm based on the recently invented telegraph:

I can only suppose the understanding back in the dawn of the Victorian age was that a meteor was another term for a vortex. It is plain from the writings of a Canadian astronomer at that time that he considered what we now categorise as meteors to be one and the same thing as an electrically swept, carbon rich, wind:

"Sounds like it is endemic and not just the Cols and Richard Dixons of this world who are more than a touch dawlish:

News Releases for Met Office.

Scientists begin to unravel summer jet stream mystery

24 August 2016 - Scientists have discovered the cause of the recent run of miserable wet summers as they begin to unravel the mysteries of the Atlantic jet stream. So how far behind the cutting edge are they:

"24 August 2016 - Scientists have discovered the cause of the recent run of miserable wet summers as they begin to unravel the mysteries of the Atlantic jet stream. [not quite they haven't]

Researchers from the University of Sheffield and the Met Office have identified a number of possible factors that may influence the Atlantic jet stream and therefore help to predict summer climate from one year to the next.[I'll bet and are just waiting to adjust the models accordingly.]

The summer weather in the UK and north-west Europe is influenced by the position and strength of the Atlantic jet stream - a ribbon of very strong winds which are caused by the temperature difference between tropical and polar air masses.[here we go with the statistics from the flowrpots.]

A northward shift in the Atlantic jet stream tends to direct low-pressure systems northwards and away from the UK, leading to warm and dry weather during summer.[We call them blocking highs don't we?]

But, if the summer jet slips southwards it can lead to the jet shifting the low-pressure systems directly over the UK, causing miserable weather like we experienced in the first half of this summer. The big question is: "why does the jet stream shift?" [Andf blocking lows]

up to 35 per cent of this variability may be predictable - a significant advance which may help in the development of seasonal forecasting models.

The findings suggest the latitude of the Atlantic jet stream in summer is influenced by several factors including sea-surface temperatures, [Oh god no! is that it?]solar variability,[the sun gets warmer?] and the extent of Arctic sea-ice, [Dawlish will be pleased -should somebody tell them that?] indicating a potential long-term memory[****!!!] and predictability in the climate system.

Professor Adam Scaife, Head flowerpots at the Met Office, said: "We've made big inroads into the usual problems."

The study, published in the journal Climate Dynamics was funded by the University of Sheffield's Project Sunshine now the Grantham Centre for Sustainable Futures, [aka the man's house wheret Bill and Ben live at the bottom of the garden] and was conducted in collaboration with the University's School of Vapourware and Statistics (SOMAS)

[You don't spell some arse like that!]

Further research will seek more funding from the EU and IPCC; the physical mechanisms behind these links. Unidentifying the different influential palaces in the cloudscape at jet speed and latitude bring to bear on our summer weather.

The other co-authors on the work were Dr Julie Jones, from the University's Department of Terracotaphy, and Professor Robertus von Fay-Siebenburgen, from SOMOS." "

******

By then something like 250 people had died, to me, my very first posts to this group had been about the Met Office charts' ability to be deciphered in a manner that revealed coming earthquakes were as real as ever and the time-wasters attached to the Meteorological department for political ends by Margaret Thatcher were a boil on the bum of a baby.

A screaming legacy of error. Compounded by the wilful disregard of people much like yourself. To me, seeing the warm fronts in the Blocking Low was all the signal anyone needed to have that 250 people could be in danger. And If Bernard Burton has updated his site recently you can see for yourself exactly what it was I was seeing.

I see that he has and for future reference when you have supplied the necessary, we will be using this analysis chart in my explanation:

http://www.woksat.info/etcyhasxx/asxx16082400.html
It contain news of both the coming Tornado storms and the volcanic eruption that follows such. But I am not going to throw any pearls before swine. Would you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearls_before_swine

In my opinion and knowing the route that seismic waves were likely to take, there was no further need to supply a pedantic energy level, bricks and mortar do what bricks and mortar do with a relatively minor earthquake, just as significantly as they do with a larger one.

******

Which brings us to my offer that you seem to be taking up an one I am going to honour when you meet the conditions.

" Thing is despite the gobbldegook it is clear that a great deal of time and effort goes into this, he has a blog too. He's been at it since at least 1998(when I joined usw) so he obviously thinks he's onto something. If only the presentation was better, and he wouldn't become so defensive when asked about his ideas, people might be able to understand what he is talking about rather than simply dismissing him as a 'nutter'.

Perhaps you should try asking him and being a little more circumspect how you do so.

A great deal of time and commensurate pain unremarked upon as I am loath to allow mistakes in my research. Trying to make the pieces fit as is the way that regular posters to this group have tried myself included leads only to being cut to ribbons on ones own inability.

Fortunately I had every reason to believe that there is a god who answers prayers and as there was no way to get at the truths I was seeking without his help; I asked him. I believe that he has answered me and I am more than willing to tell you what I believe he said.

I am not concerned about what you take to heart from this. As far as I am concerned I received freely and am responding in like manner.