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On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:59:21 +0000
John Hall wrote: In message -jade, Graham P Davis writes One tipping point that may be worth considering is the one associated with the bistable nature of the North Atlantic current system. The NAD may flip from being a warm offshoot of the Gulf Stream to a cold one sourced from the Labrador current. Over the past week or so, I've been wondering whether this flip, which I read about nearly fifty years ago, may be the result of surface water salinity changes rather than the much-trumpeted Ocean Conveyor. Interesting. Do we know roughly when previous flips may have occurred? Sorry, I can't remember whether the book mentioned particular instances and, if it did, when they were. It mentioned that the flips were sudden and had been correlated to cold periods in the climate of NW Europe. The data on the changes in current were derived, as I recall, from foraminifera in ocean-bed cores whilst climate-change data came from Greenland ice-cores. If any of this sounds familiar, it's because the scientists in "The Big Chill" Horizon programme claimed to have done the same thing for the first time - only they were actually beaten to the punch by thirty years or more. One reason why I'm doubtful of the theory that the reduction in salinity of the deep currents causes a slowdown in the Gulf Stream is that I was totally unimpressed by the scientists on the programme. Claiming to have discovered things that nobody had seen before is either dishonest or ignorant, whereas saying that the Gulf Stream might stop altogether is just ignorant. When they got so much wrong on the programme, I've begun to wonder why I ever thought they were capable of getting one thing right. Still, stopped clocks are right twice a day so anything's possible. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer] http://www.scarlet-jade.com/ I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Posted with Claws: http://www.claws-mail.org/ |
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