Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)

Martin.



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A WOW factor, I don't think so. I have seen better graphics on ITV.

I am still waiting to see a wind symbol on one of these new charts or does
the UK no longer have wind?
As for the lack of synoptics, well, I can get those off the net!

Shaun Pudwell.


"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)

Martin.



--
FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm

A WOW factor, I don't think so. I have seen better graphics on ITV.

I am still waiting to see a wind symbol on one of these new charts or does
the UK no longer have wind?
As for the lack of synoptics, well, I can get those off the net!

Shaun Pudwell.


"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)

Martin.



--
FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm

A WOW factor, I don't think so. I have seen better graphics on ITV.

I am still waiting to see a wind symbol on one of these new charts or does
the UK no longer have wind?
As for the lack of synoptics, well, I can get those off the net!

Shaun Pudwell.


"Martin Rowley" wrote in message
...
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)

Martin.



--
FAQ & Glossary for uk.sci.weather at:-
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/uswfaqfr.htm

Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)


I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

And another thing which wouldn't surprise me, how much you bet the
consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/

"Rob Overfield" wrote in message


Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

how much you bet the consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?

From Dopes Will Out:

[The launch of the new graphics is the biggest change in BBC Weather for
twenty years. As technology has become more and more advanced over
years, BBC Weather has striven to move forward to bring the audience
clearer and more modern graphics. To implement the new 3D real-time
graphics, BBC Weather has employed "Metra" to develop the bespoke
weather graphics system known as 'Weatherscape XT'.]

Why go to NZ for geeks? No-one on H2G2 capable of being stung?

[BBC Weather and the Met Office have been working along side Metra, in
New Zealand and in the UK, for many months. All three teams have been
working together to successfully integrate the Weatherscape XT system
into nations and regions for BBC Television, BBCi and online.]

Pity they never tried out a few tasters before the Thatcherite
crap-shoot.

[Metra have provided their experts to train BBC and Met Office staff,
teaching them all the different aspects of the new system.]

What aspects would they be?

[The BBC Broadcast Meteorologists are the most important link in
bringing the weather forecast to the viewers, so their input was
essential in developing the new graphics.]

And about as potent as their attempts to stop the Beeb sending them out
in the rain.

[Once the bespoke system was developed, the broadcast meteorologists
went through intensive Weatherscape training. This has helped them
create new ideas which they could pass onto BBC Weathergraphic designers
to integrate into new graphics.]

Lies. Or gross incompetence.

[Helen Willets said "It's certainly different and very funked up. After
years of using the same weather graphics, it definitely will make people
at home sit up say "wtf, what's this crap?". The graphics have changed
in every way you could possibly imagine in your worst night mare!".]

(Editted for spelling.)

[Penny Tranter said: "The new graphics system marrs all of the good
things from the old system. It gives it a modern edge and adds extra
clarity through the realistic use of weather movement".

Referring to forecasting extreme weather, she adds "Whenever we get
severe weather, you can now view an effective forecast that communicates
the full intensity of the weather".]

We will, seeing as the BBC have abdicated.

[Darren Bett explained: "The graphics give you so much more, it's
especially nice to have movement, so you can move into the Atlantic,
into the UK, then back out to the Atlantic again for example, this helps
with the continious flow of the forecast".]

But the weather stops at Ireland. It gets no nearer Iceland than
Southern Scotland.

This is summer, the charts should at least incorporate the Acores.

[Asking why they felt there was a change? Penny explained: "Our weather
forecasts have always been the most accurate and trustworthy, but after
audience research, the overall consensus was that we needed to change
the graphics".

Helen added: "Yes, our old graphics are much loved, but there
comes a time where you have to move forward with new technology".]

That explaind the need to send them out in the rain?

Women have shorter arms than men hence they have to go outside as
sticking their arms out of the window leads to inaccuracies.

I always wondered why the blokes never went outside. I thought it was a
testosterone thing.

[How will this affect your presentation of forecasts?
Helen said: "Obviously, we have new tools to work with, so it will take
some getting used to. It now allows us present a forecast without
breaking the timeline, giving a more consistent, flowing forecast. I
think we will also need to use different vocabulary to explain the
weather graphics in the forecast".]

From a mistress of differing vocals.

What she really said here was:

"They wouldn't let us use paper on sticks to poke out of the window, so
they sent us out in the rain. At least we are all equally in the dark
these days. Also we are all timed in the same way, giving a more
consistent, flowing forecast. I think we all use different vocabulary to
explain the weather graphics off camera."

Penny said: "As with learning to use any new system, the sheep have to
learn but we have the belief that we can deliver more accurate flowing
forecasts", adding "Ultimately, there will be a bedding in period not
only for BBC weather but also for the viewers, but I'm sure they will be
impressed at our ability to over-ride viewer complaints. After all what
sort of loser watches the weather anyway?".



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"Rob Overfield" wrote in message


Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

how much you bet the consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?

From Dopes Will Out:

[The launch of the new graphics is the biggest change in BBC Weather for
twenty years. As technology has become more and more advanced over
years, BBC Weather has striven to move forward to bring the audience
clearer and more modern graphics. To implement the new 3D real-time
graphics, BBC Weather has employed "Metra" to develop the bespoke
weather graphics system known as 'Weatherscape XT'.]

Why go to NZ for geeks? No-one on H2G2 capable of being stung?

[BBC Weather and the Met Office have been working along side Metra, in
New Zealand and in the UK, for many months. All three teams have been
working together to successfully integrate the Weatherscape XT system
into nations and regions for BBC Television, BBCi and online.]

Pity they never tried out a few tasters before the Thatcherite
crap-shoot.

[Metra have provided their experts to train BBC and Met Office staff,
teaching them all the different aspects of the new system.]

What aspects would they be?

[The BBC Broadcast Meteorologists are the most important link in
bringing the weather forecast to the viewers, so their input was
essential in developing the new graphics.]

And about as potent as their attempts to stop the Beeb sending them out
in the rain.

[Once the bespoke system was developed, the broadcast meteorologists
went through intensive Weatherscape training. This has helped them
create new ideas which they could pass onto BBC Weathergraphic designers
to integrate into new graphics.]

Lies. Or gross incompetence.

[Helen Willets said "It's certainly different and very funked up. After
years of using the same weather graphics, it definitely will make people
at home sit up say "wtf, what's this crap?". The graphics have changed
in every way you could possibly imagine in your worst night mare!".]

(Editted for spelling.)

[Penny Tranter said: "The new graphics system marrs all of the good
things from the old system. It gives it a modern edge and adds extra
clarity through the realistic use of weather movement".

Referring to forecasting extreme weather, she adds "Whenever we get
severe weather, you can now view an effective forecast that communicates
the full intensity of the weather".]

We will, seeing as the BBC have abdicated.

[Darren Bett explained: "The graphics give you so much more, it's
especially nice to have movement, so you can move into the Atlantic,
into the UK, then back out to the Atlantic again for example, this helps
with the continious flow of the forecast".]

But the weather stops at Ireland. It gets no nearer Iceland than
Southern Scotland.

This is summer, the charts should at least incorporate the Acores.

[Asking why they felt there was a change? Penny explained: "Our weather
forecasts have always been the most accurate and trustworthy, but after
audience research, the overall consensus was that we needed to change
the graphics".

Helen added: "Yes, our old graphics are much loved, but there
comes a time where you have to move forward with new technology".]

That explaind the need to send them out in the rain?

Women have shorter arms than men hence they have to go outside as
sticking their arms out of the window leads to inaccuracies.

I always wondered why the blokes never went outside. I thought it was a
testosterone thing.

[How will this affect your presentation of forecasts?
Helen said: "Obviously, we have new tools to work with, so it will take
some getting used to. It now allows us present a forecast without
breaking the timeline, giving a more consistent, flowing forecast. I
think we will also need to use different vocabulary to explain the
weather graphics in the forecast".]

From a mistress of differing vocals.

What she really said here was:

"They wouldn't let us use paper on sticks to poke out of the window, so
they sent us out in the rain. At least we are all equally in the dark
these days. Also we are all timed in the same way, giving a more
consistent, flowing forecast. I think we all use different vocabulary to
explain the weather graphics off camera."

Penny said: "As with learning to use any new system, the sheep have to
learn but we have the belief that we can deliver more accurate flowing
forecasts", adding "Ultimately, there will be a bedding in period not
only for BBC weather but also for the viewers, but I'm sure they will be
impressed at our ability to over-ride viewer complaints. After all what
sort of loser watches the weather anyway?".



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"Rob Overfield" wrote in message


Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

how much you bet the consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?

From Dopes Will Out:

[The launch of the new graphics is the biggest change in BBC Weather for
twenty years. As technology has become more and more advanced over
years, BBC Weather has striven to move forward to bring the audience
clearer and more modern graphics. To implement the new 3D real-time
graphics, BBC Weather has employed "Metra" to develop the bespoke
weather graphics system known as 'Weatherscape XT'.]

Why go to NZ for geeks? No-one on H2G2 capable of being stung?

[BBC Weather and the Met Office have been working along side Metra, in
New Zealand and in the UK, for many months. All three teams have been
working together to successfully integrate the Weatherscape XT system
into nations and regions for BBC Television, BBCi and online.]

Pity they never tried out a few tasters before the Thatcherite
crap-shoot.

[Metra have provided their experts to train BBC and Met Office staff,
teaching them all the different aspects of the new system.]

What aspects would they be?

[The BBC Broadcast Meteorologists are the most important link in
bringing the weather forecast to the viewers, so their input was
essential in developing the new graphics.]

And about as potent as their attempts to stop the Beeb sending them out
in the rain.

[Once the bespoke system was developed, the broadcast meteorologists
went through intensive Weatherscape training. This has helped them
create new ideas which they could pass onto BBC Weathergraphic designers
to integrate into new graphics.]

Lies. Or gross incompetence.

[Helen Willets said "It's certainly different and very funked up. After
years of using the same weather graphics, it definitely will make people
at home sit up say "wtf, what's this crap?". The graphics have changed
in every way you could possibly imagine in your worst night mare!".]

(Editted for spelling.)

[Penny Tranter said: "The new graphics system marrs all of the good
things from the old system. It gives it a modern edge and adds extra
clarity through the realistic use of weather movement".

Referring to forecasting extreme weather, she adds "Whenever we get
severe weather, you can now view an effective forecast that communicates
the full intensity of the weather".]

We will, seeing as the BBC have abdicated.

[Darren Bett explained: "The graphics give you so much more, it's
especially nice to have movement, so you can move into the Atlantic,
into the UK, then back out to the Atlantic again for example, this helps
with the continious flow of the forecast".]

But the weather stops at Ireland. It gets no nearer Iceland than
Southern Scotland.

This is summer, the charts should at least incorporate the Acores.

[Asking why they felt there was a change? Penny explained: "Our weather
forecasts have always been the most accurate and trustworthy, but after
audience research, the overall consensus was that we needed to change
the graphics".

Helen added: "Yes, our old graphics are much loved, but there
comes a time where you have to move forward with new technology".]

That explaind the need to send them out in the rain?

Women have shorter arms than men hence they have to go outside as
sticking their arms out of the window leads to inaccuracies.

I always wondered why the blokes never went outside. I thought it was a
testosterone thing.

[How will this affect your presentation of forecasts?
Helen said: "Obviously, we have new tools to work with, so it will take
some getting used to. It now allows us present a forecast without
breaking the timeline, giving a more consistent, flowing forecast. I
think we will also need to use different vocabulary to explain the
weather graphics in the forecast".]

From a mistress of differing vocals.

What she really said here was:

"They wouldn't let us use paper on sticks to poke out of the window, so
they sent us out in the rain. At least we are all equally in the dark
these days. Also we are all timed in the same way, giving a more
consistent, flowing forecast. I think we all use different vocabulary to
explain the weather graphics off camera."

Penny said: "As with learning to use any new system, the sheep have to
learn but we have the belief that we can deliver more accurate flowing
forecasts", adding "Ultimately, there will be a bedding in period not
only for BBC weather but also for the viewers, but I'm sure they will be
impressed at our ability to over-ride viewer complaints. After all what
sort of loser watches the weather anyway?".



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Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)


I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

And another thing which wouldn't surprise me, how much you bet the
consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/

Martin Rowley wrote:
Interesting 'views' from the current crop of weather presenters on the
BBC ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweat...ics_team.shtml

somehow, I'm reminded of those MP's who object to taking the oath of
allegiance at the start of each parliamentary session; I believe some
take it with their fingers crossed (signifying that they don't mean a
word of it).

I wonder how many fingers are crossed at White City these days ;-)


I think its more than their jobs are worth to say anything else in public.
However, what wouldn't surprise me is that a fair number will think its a
waste.

And another thing which wouldn't surprise me, how much you bet the
consultation with the forecasters was minimal....?
--
Rob Overfield
Hull
http://www.astrosport02.karoo.net/YorkshireWeather/