I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but how do I refresh an
Avbrief radar animated image (short of rebooting the PC) in a browser
like say IE6 or a tabbed one like Avant if it should make any
difference? In other words if I download a given animation at time T,
how do I download an updated version at say time T + 1 hour given that
they both have the same file name? (The single images aren't a problem
because they have unique file names - it's just the animations.)

Or is this a defect in the current Avbrief implementation?

JGD

PS I guess I should add that the obvious ploy of using Refresh just
dumps you (well me at least) back to the Radar Index page.

Can't help I'm afraid - but are you having problems with the animations ?
Everytime I try and load one up it won't accept my password ?

Mark.

"John Dann" wrote in message
...
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but how do I refresh an
Avbrief radar animated image (short of rebooting the PC) in a browser
like say IE6 or a tabbed one like Avant if it should make any
difference? In other words if I download a given animation at time T,
how do I download an updated version at say time T + 1 hour given that
they both have the same file name? (The single images aren't a problem
because they have unique file names - it's just the animations.)

Or is this a defect in the current Avbrief implementation?

JGD

PS I guess I should add that the obvious ploy of using Refresh just
dumps you (well me at least) back to the Radar Index page.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:45:02 +0000, John Dann
wrote:

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but how do I refresh an
Avbrief radar animated image (short of rebooting the PC) in a browser
like say IE6 or a tabbed one like Avant if it should make any
difference? In other words if I download a given animation at time T,
how do I download an updated version at say time T + 1 hour given that
they both have the same file name? (The single images aren't a problem
because they have unique file names - it's just the animations.)

Or is this a defect in the current Avbrief implementation?

JGD

PS I guess I should add that the obvious ploy of using Refresh just
dumps you (well me at least) back to the Radar Index page.

Use the browser's "Back" button to return to the Radar Index page.
Then click the link again for whatever amnimation you want. You don't
need to worry about (or even know) what the filenames are.

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Dave

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:45:02 +0000, John Dann wrote in


I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but how do I refresh an
Avbrief radar animated image (short of rebooting the PC) in a browser
like say IE6 or a tabbed one like Avant if it should make any
difference? In other words if I download a given animation at time T,
how do I download an updated version at say time T + 1 hour given that
they both have the same file name? (The single images aren't a problem
because they have unique file names - it's just the animations.)

Or is this a defect in the current Avbrief implementation?

JGD

PS I guess I should add that the obvious ploy of using Refresh just
dumps you (well me at least) back to the Radar Index page.

I use Avant (and now MYIE2) and find a "refresh" has always worked with
those animated .gifs. Failing that, the standard method is pressing the
CTRL key at same time as the F1 key. That will force a refresh whereas
CTRL and R will only refresh if the time stamp of the file has changed.

There is a problem with some ISPs who use a cache server - say NTL. Mine
doesn't, but if there is one you may be getting the old one again from that
server.

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/01/2004 20:20:46 UTC

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:20:46 +0000, Mike Tullett wrote in

snip
Failing that, the standard method is pressing the
CTRL key at same time as the F1 key.
snip

Ooops sorry - make that CTRL+F5

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Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 26/01/2004 20:22:16 UTC

I've also had problems with the password - get on to the customer service E
mail address on their website and John Culf will probably help you out as he
did me.

There is an on-going problem for some subscribers and they're trying to sort
it out.


Chris
"Mark Buckley" wrote in
message ...
Can't help I'm afraid - but are you having problems with the animations ?
Everytime I try and load one up it won't accept my password ?

Mark.

"John Dann" wrote in message
...
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but how do I refresh an
Avbrief radar animated image (short of rebooting the PC) in a browser
like say IE6 or a tabbed one like Avant if it should make any
difference? In other words if I download a given animation at time T,
how do I download an updated version at say time T + 1 hour given that
they both have the same file name? (The single images aren't a problem
because they have unique file names - it's just the animations.)

Or is this a defect in the current Avbrief implementation?

JGD

PS I guess I should add that the obvious ploy of using Refresh just
dumps you (well me at least) back to the Radar Index page.

Hmm, I guess it must be my setup (TM), which is a user a/c under Win2K
and IE6(.0.2800.1106IS) patched to date AFAIK. (I guess Avant just
picks up the same IE6 engine details). This is what I see:

1. If I'm viewing a previously downloaded Avbrief radar aniGIF in IE6
then pressing F5 dumps me into the Avbrief home page. Navigating
through into the radar index page again and clicking the same aniGIF
link simply replays the previously downloaded aniGIF, ie doesn't
trigger a refresh of the GIF.

2. Ditto Ctrl F5 or manually selecting Refresh as a menu option gives
an identical behaviour.

3. Using back and reselecting the same link gives an identical result.

So for whatever reason I can't force a re-fetch of an image file on my
set-up, though it does work fine for forcing a refresh of HTML pages.
(This rings a faint bell somewhere about image files not necessarily
being easy to refresh in some IE configurations).

But thanks anyway for the responses, which I interpret to mean that
most other people can indeed get the obvious approach (ie effectively
refreshing or reclicking the same link) to work in getting a more
recent aniGIF downloaded. Sounds like I might need to ask on the IE ng
to make some more progress.

JGD

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:57:03 GMT, "Mark Buckley"
wrote:

Can't help I'm afraid - but are you having problems with the animations ?
Everytime I try and load one up it won't accept my password ?


Yes I did see that earlier on today, but bizarrely only for the
animations not the single images. (Though maybe on reflection it's the
animations that are more likely to be stolen and therefore now given
more rigorous authentication). But as Chris says, this is an issue
that can be resolved by Avbrief support and that particular problem is
now fixed for me.

JGD

OK, problem solved. It seems that if the 'Check for newer versions of
stored pages' is set to automatic (which IIRC may be the default) in
IE, it overrides any manual attempt to force an image refresh.
Choosing 'Every visit to the page' rather than 'automatic' cures the
problem.

Many thanks for the helpful comments.

JGD