I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37 years..
Has anyone here had similar problems?

Tudor Hughes.

On 17/04/18 04:46, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website
is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round
in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various
cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced
*all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access
to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free
to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article.
This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my
membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37
years. Has anyone here had similar problems?


I haven't tried in the last few years but, although I once eventually
gained access to Weather, it was a right pain. I recall that one was
told to login on the Weather site and then go to Wiley's. I know it
didn't work the first few times but, after much wailing and gnashing of
teeth, I stumbled into the site. I don't know how I did it. As someone
once described some commercial software to me, "it's about as
user-friendly as a cornered rat!"

I think I read something from R Met Soc that their system had changed
since I last used it so whether that was a change for the better or
worse, I've no idea.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
"There is nothing more frustrating than playing hide and seek with a
deaf wolf." [Benton Fraser]
OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed]

Graham P Davis wrote:

On 17/04/18 04:46, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website
is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going
round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down
various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has
outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to
gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that
this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title
of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering not
renewing my membership despite having been a member (Associate
Fellow) for 37 years. Has anyone here had similar problems?


I haven't tried in the last few years but, although I once eventually
gained access to Weather, it was a right pain. I recall that one was
told to login on the Weather site and then go to Wiley's. I know it
didn't work the first few times but, after much wailing and gnashing
of teeth, I stumbled into the site. I don't know how I did it. As
someone once described some commercial software to me, "it's about as
user-friendly as a cornered rat!"

I think I read something from R Met Soc that their system had changed
since I last used it so whether that was a change for the better or
worse, I've no idea.

I wanted to search for an article in 'Weather' recently and I don't
recall having any problem finding it. I went in through the RMetS site.
I'm pretty sure that I located the article in a few minutes.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 06:56:01 UTC+1, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 17/04/18 04:46, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website
is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round
in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various
cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced
*all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access
to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free
to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article.
This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my
membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37
years. Has anyone here had similar problems?


I haven't tried in the last few years but, although I once eventually
gained access to Weather, it was a right pain. I recall that one was
told to login on the Weather site and then go to Wiley's. I know it
didn't work the first few times but, after much wailing and gnashing of
teeth, I stumbled into the site. I don't know how I did it. As someone
once described some commercial software to me, "it's about as
user-friendly as a cornered rat!"

I think I read something from R Met Soc that their system had changed
since I last used it so whether that was a change for the better or
worse, I've no idea.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
"There is nothing more frustrating than playing hide and seek with a
deaf wolf." [Benton Fraser]
OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed]

If there's been a change for the better at the RMetS the condition before the change must have defied description. Why should this be? They're an academic society FFS. Can't be short of brains.

Tudor Hughes.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37 years.
Has anyone here had similar problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site.
Click on Publications
Then Journals,
Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather
Browse
All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:29:56 UTC+1, Len wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37 years..
Has anyone here had similar problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site.
Click on Publications
Then Journals,
Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather
Browse
All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

Thanks, Len. I have tried all that as I did last night. On pressing the orange button "Members access to journals" a page comes up which says "Access Denied". In the body of the text below the button is a link to Back Files which produces exactly the same result - access denied. I tried going directly to Weather, Browse, All issues and found there was a small orange indicator to "login". This takes you back to the original page where you can have another go at wasting your time and so ad infinitum.
All this despite a green panel that came up (somewhere or other) and explicitly stated that I was successfully logged in. Perhaps I'm persona non grata, for reasons that escape me.
Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

Tudor Hughes.

Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:29:56 UTC+1, Len wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The
website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop
going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going
down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S
has outsourced all its publications. It appears to be impossible
to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion
that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the
title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering
not renewing my membership despite having been a member
(Associate Fellow) for 37 years. Has anyone here had similar
problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site.
Click on Publications
Then Journals,
Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather
Browse
All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

Thanks, Len. I have tried all that as I did last night. On
pressing the orange button "Members access to journals" a page comes
up which says "Access Denied". In the body of the text below the
button is a link to Back Files which produces exactly the same result
- access denied. I tried going directly to Weather, Browse, All
issues and found there was a small orange indicator to "login". This
takes you back to the original page where you can have another go at
wasting your time and so ad infinitum. All this despite a green
panel that came up (somewhere or other) and explicitly stated that I
was successfully logged in. Perhaps I'm persona non grata, for
reasons that escape me. Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

Tudor Hughes.

I gave it a try earlier this afternoon and got in with no problem. I
was able to browse and search "Weather" right back to the first issue.
It sounds as though there's something screwed up with your login
credentials, Tudor. It probably needs some attention from the people at
RMetS HQ.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 16:57:48 UTC+1, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Tudor Hughes wrote:

On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:29:56 UTC+1, Len wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The
website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop
going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going
down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S
has outsourced all its publications. It appears to be impossible
to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion
that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the
title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering
not renewing my membership despite having been a member
(Associate Fellow) for 37 years. Has anyone here had similar
problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site.
Click on Publications
Then Journals,
Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather
Browse
All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

Thanks, Len. I have tried all that as I did last night. On
pressing the orange button "Members access to journals" a page comes
up which says "Access Denied". In the body of the text below the
button is a link to Back Files which produces exactly the same result
- access denied. I tried going directly to Weather, Browse, All
issues and found there was a small orange indicator to "login". This
takes you back to the original page where you can have another go at
wasting your time and so ad infinitum. All this despite a green
panel that came up (somewhere or other) and explicitly stated that I
was successfully logged in. Perhaps I'm persona non grata, for
reasons that escape me. Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

Tudor Hughes.

I gave it a try earlier this afternoon and got in with no problem. I
was able to browse and search "Weather" right back to the first issue.
It sounds as though there's something screwed up with your login
credentials, Tudor. It probably needs some attention from the people at
RMetS HQ.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

OK, Norman. I'll have to send them an email in the politest terms I can summon. Thanks for your efforts.

Tudor Hughes

On 17/04/18 16:25, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:29:56 UTC+1, Len wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes
wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my
membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The
website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop
going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going
down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S
has outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be
impossible to gain access to any publication despite the R Met
S's assertion that this is free to Members. What is "free" is
usually just the title of an article. This is most dishonest and
I am considering not renewing my membership despite having been a
member (Associate Fellow) for 37 years. Has anyone here had
similar problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site. Click on Publications Then
Journals, Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather Browse All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

Thanks, Len. I have tried all that as I did last night. On pressing
the orange button "Members access to journals" a page comes up which
says "Access Denied". In the body of the text below the button is a
link to Back Files which produces exactly the same result - access
denied. I tried going directly to Weather, Browse, All issues and
found there was a small orange indicator to "login". This takes you
back to the original page where you can have another go at wasting
your time and so ad infinitum. All this despite a green panel that
came up (somewhere or other) and explicitly stated that I was
successfully logged in. Perhaps I'm persona non grata, for reasons
that escape me. Anyway, thanks for your efforts.


That sounds like what I suffered a few years ago. I eventually got in
but it was probably more by luck than judgement. For some reason, I'm
reminded of advice I heard years ago regarding how to get off the
Cambridge ring road. "Go round faster and faster until you reach escape
velocity!"


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
"There is nothing more frustrating than playing hide and seek with a
deaf wolf." [Benton Fraser]
OS: Linux [openSUSE Tumbleweed]

On 17/04/2018 16:25, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:29:56 UTC+1, Len wrote:
On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 4:46:30 AM UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
I've been trying to browse back numbers of "Weather" via my membership of the Royal Met Soc but there are problems. The website is an ill-thought-out shambles. When you do finally stop going round in circles you land up meeting brick walls and going down various cul-de-sacs on the Wiley website to whom the R Met S has outsourced *all* its publications. It appears to be impossible to gain access to any publication despite the R Met S's assertion that this is free to Members. What is "free" is usually just the title of an article. This is most dishonest and I am considering not renewing my membership despite having been a member (Associate Fellow) for 37 years.
Has anyone here had similar problems?

Tudor Hughes.

Yes, it is a bit long winded Tudor.

Here is the order to do things:

Login as member on the RMetS site.
Click on Publications
Then Journals,
Then on 'Members Access to Journals' (in Orange)

Then Weather
Browse
All issues.

There is a search facility at the top of the page.

regards

Len

Thanks, Len. I have tried all that as I did last night. On pressing the orange button "Members access to journals" a page comes up which says "Access Denied". In the body of the text below the button is a link to Back Files which produces exactly the same result - access denied. I tried going directly to Weather, Browse, All issues and found there was a small orange indicator to "login". This takes you back to the original page where you can have another go at wasting your time and so ad infinitum.
All this despite a green panel that came up (somewhere or other) and explicitly stated that I was successfully logged in. Perhaps I'm persona non grata, for reasons that escape me.
Anyway, thanks for your efforts.

Are you doing anything unusual|? Blocking all cookies or an unusual web
browser with paranoid security settings or too old or too new version?

--
Regards,
Martin Brown