On Thursday, 18 February 2016 10:55:39 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:32:30 -0800 (PST)
JCW ...com wrote:

On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 16:23:32 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:59:21 +0000
t. When they got so much wrong
on the programme, I've begun to wonder why I ever thought they were
capable of getting one thing right. Still, stopped clocks are right
twice a day so anything's possible.


Graham, can you recall was the more recent study one that included
examination of tree rings from Newfoundland forests (or the like!)?
My dimming memory recalls something along those lines when the claim
was 'new' and indicative of slow down in the Atlantic current..? The
trees having showed dramatic growth restrictions over a period of
time, etc, etc.

Then again, I might be barking up the wrong tree(ring)..and
succumbing to Film or storybook fiction overload!

I hadn't bothered to look for any papers by them, watching "The Big
Chill" was enough to put me off.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon...illtrans.shtml

I'm really fed up with scientists re-inventing the wheel or discovering
yet again than water is wet.

Just one example:
I think it was in the same book where I read about the bi-stable nature
of the N Atlantic currents that the author explained how ice isn't
slippery because it melts under pressure and that it is due to
the molecular structure of the ice at the ice-air interface. A few
months ago in the New Scientist, there was an article on the recent
discovery that ice isn't slippery because it melts under pressure and
that it is due to the molecular structure of the ice at the ice-air
interface.
Aaaaargh!

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Haha...brilliant!!

Maybe this is the science of "to be sure, to be sure"....

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 9:21:31 PM UTC, JCW wrote:
Had a quick read of this, understood very little of it, but of course caught the last few lines which read:

"The first of these oscillations may even turn out to be as strongly negative as around 1810, in which case a short Grand Minimum similar to the Dalton one might develop. This moderate-to-low-activity episode is expected to last for at least one Gleissberg cycle (60-100 years)."

The remaining extract he

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...64682608003787

This should give rise to further discussion / analysis by those with interest and knowledge of cycles and their possible or potential impact on weather?

A Dalton minimum-type possibility, eh?

Theres a video on this webpage and about 1 min 20 secs. in it suggest that the cold pool in the North Atlantic may be a sign that the THC may be about to switch!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...tic-right-now/