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Just so I know the facts. What is the salary range of a degree qualified employee at the Met Office? How do they compare with the salaries at say the ECMWF?

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On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 7:45:02 PM UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Saturday, 23 January 2016 08:57:19 UTC, dawlish wrote:
On Friday, January 22, 2016 at 10:13:17 PM UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Friday, 22 January 2016 20:35:20 UTC, dawlish wrote:

You missed my irony, Scott. Teaching is an incredibly difficult job, beyond most in the MetO.

Especially with some ******* from OFSTED watching your every move.

Tudor Hughes.


You can never control your mouth, can you, hughes?

Inspection is necessary, to get the best deal possible for kids, but teaching is an amazingly complex and difficult job; as I said, far beyond most in the MetO. However, the pay may be comparable to teachers, after 10 years in the job, so why don't the MetO strikers who've decided decided their lot is not good enough, leave and re-train as maths and science teachers? If they are good enough, the teaching profession would love to have them........but they would have to be good enough. Pay teachers more; they do an incredible job, as do junior doctors in the NHS.


Call me hughes again and I'll rip your ****ing head off and **** down your throat. You get the gist.

Tudor Hughes

Tudor Hughes.


Another one for the archive hughes. Plus your next post. I suspect alcohol, but, of course, that can't be proved. I also suspect a very, very, angry old man who has been prone to some many similarly difficult outbursts in real life. No-one has done anything bad enough to provoke those outbursts. After the first, you were still fuming, weren't you, so you had to go back to your computer and type another. I doubt you slept well.

You aren't, of course, capable of an apology, I suppose? It would be a shame if you can't. After those posts, you should leave this group and not return.
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People often ask "what's the matter with him". Nothing wrong
with him, he's just a
complete ****.
Tudor Hughes.


Tudor, would you please reflect on the following. I find the use
of a part of my (female) anatomy as the ultimate pejorative
epithet for an unpleasant (male) individual deeply offensive.

Please don't use it again.

Thank you.

Anne


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On Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:34:56 UTC, Anne B wrote:
People often ask "what's the matter with him". Nothing wrong
with him, he's just a
complete ****.
Tudor Hughes.


Tudor, would you please reflect on the following. I find the use
of a part of my (female) anatomy as the ultimate pejorative
epithet for an unpleasant (male) individual deeply offensive.

Please don't use it again.


Evidently a missdirctile. But assigning the genital a majority would incorporate some nascent potency the neuter is not pejorative enough for.

Allow me to apologise on his behalf as his response mechanism is still in overdrive and may be so for a few days.

The problem is that in the era before the Internet we would all know the history of people that a community would shelter or hose them away from the daily grind.

It happens now and again that one slips through the net. Someone taught him craftiness and invention of alibi alternate addresses. And we tend to lose track of what is going on since most of us never bother inventing more than one of ourselves.

I think that you are perfectly aware of this. But when tempers falre it is easy to get caught up. Dawlish by his ability or lack thereof, is able to remain his usual self though all this; for it is his norm. I don't know whether he is just responding to petty spite but pettiness does appear to be all he has for marbles.

He doesn't have the acuity to realise that his alta-egos should behave in a slightly different manner to him. I assume that that's because he just doesn't know how.

But you are right, swearing at him has no effect and is best not engaged in, it offends all the wrong people. And he has given a fool a weapon to troll with. Silly.
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"Alan [Guildford]" wrote in message
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Just so I know the facts. What is the salary range of a degree qualified
employee at the Met Office? How do they compare with the salaries at say
the ECMWF?


Nearly all MetO employees are degree qualified. The median salary is £30K.
It will be double that in ECMWF.

Will
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believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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On Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:38:47 UTC, wrote:

Nearly all MetO employees are degree qualified. The median salary is £30K.
It will be double that in ECMWF.


I wonder if that is why they're seen as the world leaders - i.e. attract the best by paying them well (and the tax benefits as well as the salary)?

That's not meant to be inflammatory by the way (unlike most of the newsgroup in the last 72 hours).

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On Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:34:56 UTC, Anne B wrote:
People often ask "what's the matter with him". Nothing wrong
with him, he's just a
complete ****.
Tudor Hughes.


Tudor, would you please reflect on the following. I find the use
of a part of my (female) anatomy as the ultimate pejorative
epithet for an unpleasant (male) individual deeply offensive.

Please don't use it again.

Thank you.

Anne


Can I call him a prick, then? Or a knobhead? A dickhead? A bell-end? A cock? Can I say he talks ********? I once had a girl-friend who called me the c-word. Vaginas had nothing to do with it - there'd been a row to end all rows. I'm sorry if you were offended but these are epithets and only coincidentally body parts - that's our culture. Other languages and cultures have different things to swear on.

Tudor Hughes.
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On Sunday, 24 January 2016 19:58:02 UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:34:56 UTC, Anne B wrote:
People often ask "what's the matter with him". Nothing wrong
with him, he's just a
complete ****.
Tudor Hughes.


Tudor, would you please reflect on the following. I find the use
of a part of my (female) anatomy as the ultimate pejorative
epithet for an unpleasant (male) individual deeply offensive.

Please don't use it again.

Thank you.

Anne


Can I call him a prick, then? Or a knobhead? A dickhead? A bell-end? A cock? Can I say he talks ********? I once had a girl-friend who called me the c-word. Vaginas had nothing to do with it - there'd been a row to end all rows. I'm sorry if you were offended but these are epithets and only coincidentally body parts - that's our culture. Other languages and cultures have different things to swear on.


The point is, he won't believe you. Can't you see it hits him like water under a duck?

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On Sunday, 24 January 2016 16:38:47 UTC, wrote:
"Alan [Guildford]" wrote in message
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Just so I know the facts. What is the salary range of a degree qualified
employee at the Met Office? How do they compare with the salaries at say
the ECMWF?


Nearly all MetO employees are degree qualified. The median salary is £30K.
It will be double that in ECMWF.

Will
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" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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Will, thanks for the clarification, I did suspect as much. I certainly would not describe that kind of salary level as a "well-paid, degree+ level job".

That does sound low for a person with a science based degree, even outside the South East. I work in the Software industry, and someone at mid-career level could easily expect to get 45K+.

Best of luck to them with their industrial action.





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I'm sorry if you were offended but these are epithets and
only coincidentally body parts - that's our culture.
Tudor Hughes


I am not sure that either 'culture' or 'coincidentally' is an
appropriate term in this context. It is not cultured behaviour
to use a word in such a way that it is offensive not only to the
individual to whom it is applied, but also to many other people.

Call him and his fellows anything you like that doesn't use the
names of female body parts as an insult to a male. You have ably
demonstrated that there is an ample supply of such alternative
words.

Anne




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