I am sure I am not alone in watching the graphs he

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

I am of the opinion that this is a pivotal year, whether we are really on a catastrophic course of self destruction or if this is just a relatively "normal" cycle of some sort. The graph up until two weeks ago was dropping at the relatively new norm of 1981-2013 average. It is now falling off the cliff. The Arctic sea ice June news suggests lower than (recent) average temperatures in the area. This now seems to have changed dramatically. This and the almost complete absence of any significant jet stream at 120 hrs http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_atl_h120_00.gif, has me wondering if the moment of truth has not arrived. Only last week the met office was telling us that we we could expect another 10 years of poor summers...........

Mike McMillan

Osborne Bay (20 degrees at 20.28)

This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.

This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.

This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.

This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.

Forgot to say, the grass is starting to turn yellow on many of the roadside verges here in South Devon.

On Saturday, July 6, 2013 8:30:39 PM UTC+1, Mike McMillan wrote:
I am sure I am not alone in watching the graphs he



http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/



I am of the opinion that this is a pivotal year, whether we are really on a catastrophic course of self destruction or if this is just a relatively "normal" cycle of some sort. The graph up until two weeks ago was dropping at the relatively new norm of 1981-2013 average. It is now falling off the cliff. The Arctic sea ice June news suggests lower than (recent) average temperatures in the area. This now seems to have changed dramatically. This and the almost complete absence of any significant jet stream at 120 hrs http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_atl_h120_00.gif, has me wondering if the moment of truth has not arrived. Only last week the met office was telling us that we we could expect another 10 years of poor summers...........



Mike McMillan



Osborne Bay (20 degrees at 20.28)

NSIDC attribute the slow melt last month to stormy conditions in the Arctic.. These conditions have now changed and rising pressure is allowing 24 hours sunlight to melt the expenses of thin ice.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Since that report was written, ice in early July 2013 is now melting at record rates because these June synoptics delayed the melt and a record area being thin first-year ice. Last year's stunning record low could be threatened, but it will depend on synoptics over the summer.

I'm not sure there will be a single "pivotal" year. If we had one, it was perhaps in 2007. What we are likely to see are low sea ice extent records with the right synoptics and then years in-between where no record is set and the silly climate deniers try to tell us Arctic sea ice is recovering - a la the last 6/7 years. It's wearing when they do that.

Summer Arctic sea ice is in terminal decline; that is almost certain - no matter what some nutbars would like us to believe.

On 06/07/2013 20:38, Teignmouth wrote:
This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.


10 *year* ones?? Any regular weather watcher knows to take even 10 *day*
ones with a huge pinch of salt!

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Regards,

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

On Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:30:20 AM UTC+1, vidcapper wrote:
On 06/07/2013 20:38, Teignmouth wrote:

This summer's turning out to be quite good here in South Devon, so take Met Office 10 year climate forecast with a bucket load of salt.

10 *year* ones?? Any regular weather watcher knows to take even 10 *day*

ones with a huge pinch of salt!

Regards,

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Very true about the 10-day ones.

On Saturday, 6 July 2013 20:30:39 UTC+1, Mike McMillan wrote:
I am sure I am not alone in watching the graphs he



http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/



I am of the opinion that this is a pivotal year, whether we are really on a catastrophic course of self destruction or if this is just a relatively "normal" cycle of some sort. The graph up until two weeks ago was dropping at the relatively new norm of 1981-2013 average. It is now falling off the cliff. The Arctic sea ice June news suggests lower than (recent) average temperatures in the area. This now seems to have changed dramatically. This and the almost complete absence of any significant jet stream at 120 hrs http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_atl_h120_00.gif, has me wondering if the moment of truth has not arrived. Only last week the met office was telling us that we we could expect another 10 years of poor summers...........



Mike McMillan



Osborne Bay (20 degrees at 20.28)

By pivotal, I meant physiologically rather than physically.

Mike McMillan Osborne bay (currently 21.2 degrees, waiting for a sea breeze to develop.