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It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...rss_topstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?

Rich
http://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm




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Rich wrote:
It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...rss_topstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?

Rich
http://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm




It's just text, I was hoping for a photo essay.

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:13:54 -0000, "Rich" wrote:

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?


I remember one in 1947, NW Surrey.

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Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather
Some walks and treks:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/walks
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In article ,
Rich writes:
It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...tml?eref=rss_t
opstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?


An hour or two of freezing drizzle isn't uncommon, but I think that
"serious" cases are fairly rare, maybe a couple of times a decade
somewhere in the UK. Possibly the most severe on record in this country
was in January, 1940. See:

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...in_january.htm
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John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"
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Rich wrote:

It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-


http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...rss_topstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this
event occurs in the UK ?

Rich
http://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm


I can remember at least three winters in the sixties when this occurred.
1961-2 was the most unusual as it occurred on a cold front. It was near the
turn of the year. Winds were mostly from the northeast throughout. We had
heavy snow on the Friday - probably up to 6" - which turned to rain
overnight and Saturday dawned damp and drizzly with all the snow gone. In
the afternoon steady rain set in and the temperature dropped. All surfaces,
apart from the ground, became ice-covered. By tea-time, ice began to form
on the roads and paths. Next morning, it was snowing heavily again.

1962-3 winter had a few short-lived occurrences of freezing rain during the
early part of the winter. In January there were occurrences of freezing
drizzle and at least one of freezing rain. At Wyton late one evening, a
thaw set in and the ice started dropping from the trees. A few hours later
the noise stopped as the freeze set in again.

The next I remember was in 1965-6 in Bracknell. Cars, which were barely
moving above walking pace, kept sliding gently with the camber of the road
into the gutter. Walking wasn't much fun either.

The worst I remember for walking occurred in the fifties when the freezing
rain overnight had been mixed with a short spell of snow or hail. The
footpaths had white blobs about half-inch apart which were covered with ice
so that the surface was bumpy and shoes only made contact with the tops of
these small bumps. Very slippery!

I recall one occasion in the mid-seventies and another in the eighties but
none since. This could either be due to global warming or some sort of
short-term memory-loss.

Graham

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I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this
event
occurs in the UK ?


An hour or two of freezing drizzle isn't uncommon, but I think that
"serious" cases are fairly rare, maybe a couple of times a decade
somewhere in the UK. Possibly the most severe on record in this country
was in January, 1940. See:

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...in_january.htm
--
John Hall "He crams with cans of poisoned meat
The subjects of the King,
And when they die by thousands G.K.Chesterton:
Why, he laughs like anything." from "Song Against Grocers"


Thanks John,

That's an excellent link. I'll explore that whole site when I have more
time.

Rich

http://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm


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The only one I have ever known since 1960 was 10 years ago round the
Nottingham area when we ago to find telephone wires down to 5 ft off the
floor with inch thick ice and lots of power lines down

Mike

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It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...rss_topstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this
event occurs in the UK ?

Rich
http://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm





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"Rich" wrote in
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It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...html?eref=rss_
topstories

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping
like spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently
this event occurs in the UK ?


According to Trevor Harley's wonderful site, there was one in SW England
in January 1982:

http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~ta...82_weather.htm

It didn't get up as far as me (in Kidderminster at that time), and as far
as I remember (I was nearly seven!) we had a *lot* of snow instead, which
would seem to be borne out by TH's comment ("the Midlands and Wales had
30-50 cm of snow on the 8-9th with easterly gales"). I had relatives in
Bristol, and I don't *think* the ice got up as far as them either; I
remember them saying in December 1995 that they didn't remember freezing
rain on that scale in Bristol for many years.

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Was an ice storm the cause of the collapse of the Emley Moor TV mast in 1969? I
just about remember it happening and it was winter.


Chris

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 07:13:54 -0000, "Rich" wrote:

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?


I remember one in 1947, NW Surrey.

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On Jan 13, 7:13 am, "Rich" wrote:
It seems the mid west is in the grip of an ice storm :-

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WEATHER/01/1...x.html?eref=rs...

I recall a similar event in the UK when large icicles were dropping like
spears from buildings and powerlines. Anyone know how frequently this event
occurs in the UK ?

Richhttp://www.richdavies.com/weather.htm


There was freezing drizzle here on 30 Dec '95. Max temp
-0.8°. It was nearly impossible to walk on the pavement without going
a-over-t.
The conditions for freezing rain in Oklahoma at the moment are
perfect, with surface temps about -5° and an enormous inversion
between 2000 and 4000 feet, temps up to +9°. A marked wind shear at
the inversion as well. See:

http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/soun...312&STNM=72357

This is for Norman, OK, at 12Z, 13 Jan.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.



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