Hey I'm no scientist- so lets get that in before someone points it out.

I was reading this article over at Anthony Watts website
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

and the data linked there really shows how warm the Arctic and eastern
canada has been , severly so in December but alos over the year. So itys no
wonder that the sea ice is struggling this NH winter, no such trouble in
the SH where the Antartic spring sea ice has been well above average and we
must remember there's far more se ice in the SH
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/jra25/jra25_2010.html


I mention this as although there has been a remarkable drop in surface level
temperature recently people still quote how low the Arctic ice cover is so
how can that be so. Well all I can say check out this page and look at the
warm anomaly for December over the Arctic sea, Greenland and east Canada
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/jra25/jra25_2010.html

You can see clearly how the large cold anomalies were literally financed by
the Arctic warm anomalies -no wonder the ice is struggling

On Jan 3, 1:39*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:

Hey I'm no scientist- so lets get that in before someone points it out.


Admitting that you are not a scientist does not give you carte blanche
to quote pseudo science web sites as gospel

I was reading this article over at Anthony Watts website
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

Watts Up with This is he http://wattsupwiththat.com/

Presumably you were reading this article:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/0...-close-second/

The link that you gave shows that the Antarctic sea ice is close to
normal:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

unlike the Arctic sea ice which is not only below normal it is at a
record low for the time of year:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

However, you are correct that the Arctic and eastern Canada has been
"severly" warm, but the warmth is caused by the lack of sea ice, and
is not the cause of it. See the thread "Expect more extreme winters"
he
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...2be2fdde65412b

You may think that we "greenies" are only worried about the Arctic Sea
Ice because when it has gone there will be no more cuddly polar bears.
Why don't you try cuddling one? In fact the the danger we see is that
the polar bears are the "canaries in the coal mine", and when they die
it will be our turn next!

You deniers may have been laughing with glee at our cold December, but
if you look at the chart that you linked to, it is obvious that the
European snow was a local effect and globally the planet was much
warmer!
http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/jra25...25_2010_62.png

Even you denier blog has to admit that 2010 was the second warmest
year on record :-(
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/0...-close-second/

Cheers, Alastair.

On Jan 3, 4:13*pm, Alastair wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:39*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:

Hey I'm no scientist- so lets get that in before someone points it out.

Admitting that you are not a scientist does not give you carte blanche
to quote pseudo science web sites as gospel

I was reading this article over at Anthony Watts website
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

Watts Up with This is hehttp://wattsupwiththat.com/

Presumably you were reading this article:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/0...-the-warmest-y...

The link that you gave shows that the Antarctic sea ice is close to
normal:http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

unlike the Arctic sea ice which is not only below normal it is at a
record low for the time of year:http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/i...timeseries.png

However, you are correct that the Arctic and eastern Canada has been
"severly" warm, but the warmth is caused by the lack of sea ice, and
is not the cause of it. See the thread *"Expect more extreme winters"
hehttp://groups.google.com/group/uk.sc...read/thread/8d...

You may think that we "greenies" are only worried about the Arctic Sea
Ice because when it has gone there will be no more cuddly polar bears.
Why don't you try cuddling one? In fact the the danger we see is that
the polar bears are the "canaries in the coal mine", and when they die
it will be our turn next!

You deniers may have been laughing with glee at our cold December, but
if you look at the chart that you linked to, it is obvious that the
European snow was a local effect and globally the planet was much
warmer!http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/jra25...25_2010_62.png

Even you denier blog has to admit that 2010 was the second warmest
year on record :-(http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/0...-the-warmest-y...

Cheers, Alastair.

The deniers "laughing" at the cold of December in one part of the
Northern hemisphere is rather dampened by RSS showing that December
was warmer, globally, than last December, when the last El Nino peaked
and this December has actually ended up the 5th warmest on record. It
may be interesting to note that the warmest area of the world
was.............




.....................the higher latitude areas of the Northern
Hemisphere. *))


Oh dear. They've gone all quiet now and will be busily searching for
the next cold spot in the world to visit their crazy ideas upon. I
hear Florida and Atlanta have been unseasonally cold. Maybe they can
be used to show the world is not warming. *))