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Old March 23rd 09, 06:37 PM posted to sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.energy.renewable
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Default A Gross Insult! (Bozo Babble!)

Bozo,

Do you ever take a break?



On Mar 23, 1:59*am, "ooznb" wrote:
20 Feb 2009

A greenie propaganda website has published a list of leading deniers.

Why have Number Watch and its author been left out of this roll of honour?

Admittedly Number Watch deals with a wide variety of nonsense in addition to global
warming, but is it too much to expect some acknowledgement for the thought and effort that
went into, for example, the essays?

Of course the propagandists got the story arse about face as they usually do.

Marc Morano does not send us original material. We send it to him and he kindly operates
as a clearing house to keep the rest of us informed as to what others are saying.

Note the ageism contained in the accusation "Others are aging scientists with strong
conservative beliefs, motivating them to challenge action on global warming not because
they disbelieve its existence, but because they are ideologically opposed to regulation of
pollution."

There are two main reasons that so many of us are old:

* a.. We were trained in the era when all scientists were taught to be skeptics (about
everything) rather than believers.
* b.. We are retired and therefore not subject to blackmail within institutions that rely
on handouts from state propaganda machines. Many younger scientists would speak out if
they did not live in a climate of fear and the threat of careers without research grants.

It is *even more ludicrous than usual to claim that we are ideologically opposed to the
regulation of pollution.

Many of us were active in opposing real pollution when it was a problem (your bending
author, for example, gave much time and money long ago to the cause of water purity, when
our post-war rivers were a disaster area).

What we do not accept is that carbon, the basis of all life on earth, is a pollution.

As for having strong conservative beliefs, the political position of this site and its
author has been clearly stated.

Now that words like conservative and liberal have completely changed their meaning, anyone
who does not conform to the authoritarian message is vilified as a conservative.

Ad hominem attacks are symptomatic of campaigners who are aware that they have lost the
intellectual argument.

This is a big attack by big losers.

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/2009%20February.htm

Warmest Regards

Bonzo



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