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From the grandmaster of forecasting...
"All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- |
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On Monday, 17 November 2014 22:24:49 UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- Just trying to get me head around "For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosis has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed." So that means 95% sure of blocking whether southerly or the more desired east and northerly airstreams. I have to say when I met you gaffer last December I asked him if any severe spells were in store for the coming winter. He asked me not to disclose the answer but now of course that's over a year ago and that answer was No severe cold periods for the UK winter 2013/14. So overall a very good forecast I would say. |
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On Monday, 17 November 2014 22:24:49 UTC, Jim Cannon wrote:
From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, nevertheless we are now releasing:- WHAT ARE YOU RELEASING -PLEASE TELL THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME. |
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On Monday, November 17, 2014 at 10:24:49 PM UTC, Sir Jim Cannon wrote:
From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- Yes.......why not go on to expose the charlatan further. 95% eh, piers? Bit of a shame really that the MetO was pretty much bang on then and you were about as far out as you can get. You never returned to explain, did you? Why would that be then? |
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On 18/01/2016 13:25, dawlish wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 at 10:24:49 PM UTC, Sir Jim Cannon wrote: From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- Yes.......why not go on to expose the charlatan further. 95% eh, piers? Bit of a shame really that the MetO was pretty much bang on then and you were about as far out as you can get. You never returned to explain, did you? Why would that be then? ------------------------------------------------------------------ He's doing a good job of winding you up! We all ignore it now. |
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In message , Dave Cornwell
writes On 18/01/2016 13:25, dawlish wrote: On Monday, November 17, 2014 at 10:24:49 PM UTC, Sir Jim Cannon wrote: From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- Yes.......why not go on to expose the charlatan further. 95% eh, piers? Bit of a shame really that the MetO was pretty much bang on then and you were about as far out as you can get. You never returned to explain, did you? Why would that be then? ------------------------------------------------------------------ He's doing a good job of winding you up! We all ignore it now. I see that Dawlish was responding to a post made in November 2014. From the number of people I have seen responding to old posts in the last day or so, apparently assuming that they were new, I assume that Googlegroups must currently be more than ordinarily f***ed up. -- John Hall "Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a friend, an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones |
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Noooo . Dawlish researched all these, through simple searches to show this idiot up. As it has.
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On Monday, 18 January 2016 18:33:30 UTC, wrote:
Noooo . Dawlish researched all these, through simple searches to show this idiot up. As it has. Are you schizophrenic? Paul Garvey said "Dawlish researched all these, through simple searches to show this idiot up" |
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On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 1:25:03 PM UTC, dawlish wrote:
On Monday, November 17, 2014 at 10:24:49 PM UTC, Sir Jim Cannon wrote: From the grandmaster of forecasting... "All the Met Office warnings of extreme winter or summer seasons since 2007 have been the oppsite to what took place - recall the 'BBQ'/fine summers which turned out as floods (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012) or the mild near-snow-free winters (in line with Co2 warmist catechism) for 2009-10 and 2010-11 which in reality had record cold and snow - and so the list goes on", said Piers at WeatherAction's London Bridge Office 12th Nov. "The problem for the public is that because this cabal of charlatans (as far as long range forecasts go) are shovelled so much money from the public purse they feel a need to say something. In reality the public are being robbed to be misled and the recent abomniable announcment of £97Million on more Met Office super-computing means the public will be misled faster. In terms of the actual MO forecast we must first be clear that whatever they say has no statstical merit or in their case they have a record of negative skill (whereas WeatherAction has a proven success record and got all the extremes listed above correct for example). For this particular winter the "milder (at least till New Year)-wetter and windier than normal" prognosos has we would estimate only a 5% chance of being confirmed. Weather Action is 95% confident that the MetO forecast will fail. The winter extra money to NHS will not be enough. Govt reliance on #MetOffice misguided Co2-warmist-nonsense 'Forecasts' will cause more suffering and deaths which could be avoided if politicians had the guts to lance the boil of the #Co2Con . One must ask is the Govt using MetOffice forecasts to advise on how much etxra cash the NHS needs this winter, and if so WHY? We wish we had the public funding to release our forecasts for free. We cannot do that, neverthless we are now releasing:- Yes.......why not go on to expose the charlatan further. 95% eh, piers? Bit of a shame really that the MetO was pretty much bang on then and you were about as far out as you can get. You never returned to explain, did you? Why would that be then? And another lack of comment. 4 utterly crap forecasts. To regain the '95% accuracy' on your website, you'll have to have achieved an awful lot of correct forecasts. Oddly, nobody, including yourself, can point to them. laughing Like very occasionally poking W, showing up idiot charlatans with analysis of their ridiculous forecasts and ideas, is necessary, every now and then. |
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On Monday, 18 January 2016 18:33:30 UTC, wrote:
Noooo . Dawlish researched all these, through simple searches to show this idiot up. As it has. And you call me obsessed. I see you have started referring to yourself in the third person. Only weirdos do that. Tudor Hughes. |
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