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Make the most of it.

MAY 27 5 26 Couldn't settle down that one, could it.

JUNE 3 23 06 This one aught to be really nice.

JUNE 11 18 03 And this one will see the first of the hurricanes or at
least a severe tropical storm.

JUNE 18 14 08 And this one will be another fine one.

JUNE 25 16 05 Whilst this would ordinarily be wet. But there will be a
large mag quake or something, somewhere or other, to leave us humble.

July looks like it's going to be a wet one. If you know anyone with a
harvest due then, you had best warn them:

JUNE 25 16 05 JULY 3 16 37 Compare how the time of these two wet
spells behave with the spells for the end of May and beginning of June.

JULY 11 3 02 Thundery weather. Might be an amazing set of storms, eh?
JULY 17 19 13 Wet and windy
JULY 25 4 31 An awkward one to finish on.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html#y2005


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Weatherlawyer wrote:
Make the most of it.

MAY 27 5 26 Couldn't settle down that one, could it.

JUNE 3 23 06 This one aught to be really nice.

JUNE 11 18 03 And this one will see the first of the hurricanes or at
least a severe tropical storm.

JUNE 18 14 08 And this one will be another fine one.

JUNE 25 16 05 Whilst this would ordinarily be wet. But there will be a
large mag quake or something, somewhere or other, to leave us humble.

July looks like it's going to be a wet one. If you know anyone with a
harvest due then, you had best warn them:

JUNE 25 16 05 JULY 3 16 37 Compare how the time of these two wet
spells behave with the spells for the end of May and beginning of June.

JULY 11 3 02 Thundery weather. Might be an amazing set of storms, eh?
JULY 17 19 13 Wet and windy
JULY 25 4 31 An awkward one to finish on.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html#y2005


What is this all about, or is it just me?

Steve Richards
Swansea

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Weatherlawyer wrote:
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Weatherlawyer wrote:
Make the most of it.

MAY 27 5 26 Couldn't settle down that one, could it.

JUNE 3 23 06 This one aught to be really nice.

JUNE 11 18 03 And this one will see the first of the hurricanes or at
least a severe tropical storm.

JUNE 18 14 08 And this one will be another fine one.

JUNE 25 16 05 Whilst this would ordinarily be wet. But there will be a
large mag quake or something, somewhere or other, to leave us humble.

July looks like it's going to be a wet one. If you know anyone with a
harvest due then, you had best warn them:

JUNE 25 16 05 JULY 3 16 37 Compare how the time of these two wet
spells behave with the spells for the end of May and beginning of June.

JULY 11 3 02 Thundery weather. Might be an amazing set of storms, eh?
JULY 17 19 13 Wet and windy
JULY 25 4 31 An awkward one to finish on.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html#y2005

What is this all about, or is it just me?


There is an error in the prediction for the 18th. See if you can guess
what it should be. I gave you a source code the last time you asked.
E-mail me if you are still struggling later.


Or is it? I have got an attack of brainded.

I have been trying to get my computer working all day after stupidly
opening a dodgy email yesterday. I knew it wasn't from MSN but opened
it anyway despite the obvious fraud.

That's my excuse.

I'm going for a walk. Buggrit!

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wrote:

What is this all about, or is it just me?


Sorry about the delay. My computer is still not stable. But that's
according to Microsoft so I can't be sure that's a bad thing.

27th MAY 05:26. Couldn't settle down that one, could it?

3rd JUNE 23:06. This one aught to be really nice.

11th JUNE 18:03. And this one will see the first of the hurricanes or
at least a severe tropical storm.

18th JUNE 14:08. And this one will be another fine one.

25th JUNE 16:05. Whilst this would ordinarily be wet. But there will be
a large mag quake or something, somewhere or other, to leave us humble.

July looks like it's going to be a wet one. If you know anyone with a
harvest due then, you had best warn them:

25th JUNE 16:05 & 3rd JULY 16:37. Compare how the time of these two wet
spells behave with the spells for the end of May and beginning of June.

11th JULY 03:02. Thundery weather. Might be an amazing set of storms,
eh?
17th JULY 19:13. Wet and windy
25th JULY 04:31. An awkward one to finish on.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html#y2005

As a rule of thumb for the UK -or at least, the parts of it with which
I am familiar, YMMV, this is what the times of the phases of the moon
indicate about the weather:

If the time of the phase is on or near 5 O'clock am or pm; the
weather will be dominated by an anticyclone.
If the time of the phase is on or near 7 O'clock am or pm; the
weather will be dominated by a cyclone.
If the time of the phase is on or near 6 O'clock am or pm; the
weather will not be dominated by either a cyclone or an anticyclone.
This weather spell will be a col or have ridges and troughs.
Lunar phases that fall on the 3rd or 9th hour invariably provide a
thunderstorm or two. The weather is certainly going to be sultry,
winter or summer.

As the number of minutes approach the quarter hour so the tendency
increases for winds at ground level.
I have no idea what happens aloft for any spell.
At about both 20 or 40 minutes past the hour the spell becomes
extremely unstable.
At half past the hour the spell is half way between spells but other
factors might give the system a bias.

Other factors are hurricanes and large magnitude earthquakes.

I believe the wabble of the earth's spin affects the energy of the
planet's weather and seismicity. And any large power drain seems to
have an affect on the British weather. And that operates along these
lines:

If the weather forecaster is a little diffident about his forecast and
the trend he gives runs against the above code, the tendency is for an
earthquake. (Perhaps this is because the met offices around the world
are missing the power input to their models that a large mag quake
would give? Search the records and see- Were the forecasts given a day
or so in advance of a large earthquake accurate?)

If the weather forecaster is way out and the code is way out, then a
very large quake is to be expected. If the forecaster is pretty
accurate overall and the code is way out then the likely source of the
discrepancy is an extra tropical storm. (The world weather stations
will have added that much power to their models.)

From the foregoing it is easy to see how it might be possible to adjust

weather models to account for the power drained from a model by the
seismicity of the spell.

As a rule of thumb, the Earthquake Magnitude scale and the Beaufort
scale are similar if out by 2 numbers.

Or not as the case may be.

From the above codes (5, 6 & 7) you can interpolate the way the other

hours behave. (And what I do when forecasting, is) draw 3 eight-pointed
stars and assign the 8 "fine" hours to one of them, the 8 wet to
the next and the 8 awkward buggers the third:

Midnight, 3; 6; 9; 12; 15; 18; 21 and back to midnight again.
01:00; 04:00; 07:00 etc., and
02:00; 05:00; 08:00 etc..



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Have you posted this before or have I missed it? Apologies if you
have.

How does this work and what evidence is there that the moon has this
effect?

New to me. I can't recall it ever being mentioned in a broadcast
forecast. (Mind you weather hardly gets a mention either, just
motherly advice about umberellas, and wooly hats etc.)

Regards,

Steve Richards
Swansea

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Oh, right.

It's an assertion

Ok.

Cheers,

Steve Richards
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Joe Egginton wrote:

What has predicting the weather from the moon and the sun, got to do
with witchery.


Nothing as far as I know. Why do you ask?

And why use a French word when a good English one like "Magician" will suffice?


What's wrong with French words? The French use them all the time. They
had a good one for that imbecile Bush: "Non." They used it to good
effect on us at one time too.

Perhaps they were jealous that Tory B Liar got a bigger bribe or
perhaps they were more aware of the ability of their army to cope with
a war than our side was.

But if I was: "One whose formidable skill or art seems to be magical" I
doubt there would be many quibbling over my use of a word here or there
as: "One who performs magic for entertainment or diversion."

Perhaps they were jealous that Tory B Liar got a bigger bribe, or
perhaps they were more aware of the ability of their army to cope with
a war than our side was.

As it happens (as you know, if you were following me earlier this year)
I was stymied by some as yet unexplained force that seemed to coincide
with an half learned geophysical property of the planet.

Funny thing I had it happen to me a few times coincidentally during
snowy freezing weather too if you want to follow that up; anyone with
records that is. I can't even remember the dates.

And I wouldn't know how to go about finding the dates for the various
wabbles that there might be. As far as I am concerned: "The proof of
the pudding is in the eating." (What need for scientific papers when a
truth is self evident?)



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