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Old November 13th 14, 12:00 PM posted to sci.geo.meteorology
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Default Moist air is heavier than dry air

On 12/11/2014 21:40, I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 08:37:46 -0700 (PDT),
Jim McGinn , in
wrote:

Meteorology never bothered to measure the main assumption that moist

air is lighter than dry air. It isn't. Moist air is heavier.

Your work showing this is true? let me help you with that:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/mo...air-d_679.html

Water vapor - H2O - is composed of one Oxygen atom and two Hydrogen
atoms. Hydrogen is the lightest element at 1 atomic unit while Oxygen
is 16 atomic units. Thus the water vapor atom has an atomic mass of 18
atomic units. With 18 atomic units water vapor is lighter than
diatomic Oxygen with 32 units and diatomic Nitrogen with 28 units.


He is a clueless nutter and you cannot reason with him. His ravings
remain just as incoherent after application of the Shannoniser.

However, water dimers have recently been demonstrated to exist in trace
amounts under conditions that are not far off those in the atmosphere.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/...ric-conditions

Actually quite an elegant experiment.

Not that this affects the general point that most water vapour is
present as molecular H2O and it is only when the atmosphere is super
saturated and nuclei are about that some of it forms into clouds.

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Martin Brown