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Nationally, and for the 20th century alone:
May 3; June 26; July 42; August 24; September 5.


What about October 1985, Philip?

Or was that just locally in the Midlands?
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Nationally, and for the 20th century alone:
May 3; June 26; July 42; August 24; September 5.


What about October 1985, Philip?

Or was that just locally in the Midlands?
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Steve, it was Oct 1 quite widely in northeast England,
East Anglia and the Midlands, and a few scattered places
elsewhere. In Luton July 13 was slightly warmer.
Nationally (and I include the Channel Is here merely
because that has always been the convention) the
highest was 30.6°C at St Helier on July 13, followed
by 30.5°C at Mepal (Cambs) on Sept 12 although
I'm a bit suspicious of this one.

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!

Philip Eden


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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!


March?!?
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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!


March?!?
--

The highest temperature of 1965 at Bridlington was 71°F (as
reported), jointly on Mar 29, May 14, and Jun 28.
At Cwm Dyli (Snowdonia) and Spadeadam (Cumbria) it was
jointly Oct 5 and another date.

As far as I can determine, Mar 29 and Oct 5 are the earliest
and latest dates for this particular record, at least in
England and Wales.

Philip Eden


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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!


March?!?
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The highest temperature of 1965 at Bridlington was 71°F (as
reported), jointly on Mar 29, May 14, and Jun 28.
At Cwm Dyli (Snowdonia) and Spadeadam (Cumbria) it was
jointly Oct 5 and another date.


I find this incredible.
Was the summer of 1965 particularly E/NE dominated so the
east coast always caught the cool weather?

I find it difficult to believe that in the 3 summer months 22C (72F)
was never attained at Bridlington. In high summer practically
any reasonable westerly flow, assuming some sun should give
at least the low 20's on the east coast.

I'm not doubting your sources, just find it amazing

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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!

March?!?
--

The highest temperature of 1965 at Bridlington was 71°F (as
reported), jointly on Mar 29, May 14, and Jun 28.
At Cwm Dyli (Snowdonia) and Spadeadam (Cumbria) it was
jointly Oct 5 and another date.


I find this incredible.
Was the summer of 1965 particularly E/NE dominated so the
east coast always caught the cool weather?

I find it difficult to believe that in the 3 summer months 22C (72F)
was never attained at Bridlington. In high summer practically
any reasonable westerly flow, assuming some sun should give
at least the low 20's on the east coast.

I'm not doubting your sources, just find it amazing

1965 was an extraordinary year ... a cyclonic/westerly June,
a cyclonic/northerly July, a cyclonic westerly August, and a
cyclonic September. There were three notable warm spells,
one in March, one in May, and one in October. Without checking
the figures in detail, I suspect the sea-breeze operated at
Bridlington during the May spell, but the westerly flow was
just strong enough in March to override any sea-breeze effects.
The national max that year, 85°F from memory, occurred in
London in mid-May and this is the earliest date in the year that
the national 'high' has happened.

In Luton, my highest maxes for each month we
March 23, April 19, May 27, June 23, July 22, August 24,
September 20 and October 22.

Philip Eden


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Philip Eden wrote in message ...

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: March?!?

: The highest temperature of 1965 at Bridlington was 71°F (as
: reported), jointly on Mar 29, May 14, and Jun 28.

: I find it difficult to believe that in the 3 summer months 22C (72F)
: was never attained at Bridlington.

:1965 was an extraordinary year ... a cyclonic/westerly June,
:a cyclonic/northerly July, a cyclonic westerly August, and a
:cyclonic September. There were three notable warm spells,
ne in March, one in May, and one in October. Without checking
:the figures in detail, I suspect the sea-breeze operated at
:Bridlington during the May spell, but the westerly flow was
:just strong enough in March to override any sea-breeze effects.

29 March 1965 is one of those days that stick in my mind. In a sheltered
suburban garden in Bradford my non-standard Six's max./min. thermometer
reached 77°F (25°C) on that day. In June 1965 the highest max. was 72°F
(22°C). The Yorkshire coast is notorious for particularly cool sea breezes
when conditions are right.

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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 19:12:12, Philip Eden wrote :

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In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!


March?!?
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The highest temperature of 1965 at Bridlington was 71°F (as
reported), jointly on Mar 29, May 14, and Jun 28.
At Cwm Dyli (Snowdonia) and Spadeadam (Cumbria) it was
jointly Oct 5 and another date.

As far as I can determine, Mar 29 and Oct 5 are the earliest
and latest dates for this particular record, at least in
England and Wales.


I well remember recording 24.8°C on 1/10/85, over 3°C higher than any
other October reading in 23 years, but here at least it was in no danger
of being the highest of the year.
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Paul Hyett wrote:
In uk.sci.weather on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 13:43:39, Philip Eden wrote :

In 1965 both October and March featured in the
list of individual stations!


March?!?
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


The max at Bracknell on 29 March 1965 was 24°C, after a minimum
of 0°C, both to the nearest degree. I was there. On the south coast
on the same day I think it was mostly about 7°C.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

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