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Today was the 12th consecutive day of snow falling...and looks like tommorow
will be (unlucky??) 13.... Steve. Stevenage, Herts - 125M asl. "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Phil Layton writes: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? I don't know if the definition has changed, but didn't it use to be 50% cover of the area representative of the station? So if there's a lot more grass than drive (as one would expect), then your example would count as a day with snow lying. At Cranleigh, we had 3 consecutive days last week which just about qualified at 9am, even though the covering was very thin in each case and had almost all melted by a couple of hours later. -- John Hall "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817) |
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Today was the 12th consecutive day of snow falling...and looks like tommorow
will be (unlucky??) 13.... Steve. Stevenage, Herts - 125M asl. "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Phil Layton writes: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? I don't know if the definition has changed, but didn't it use to be 50% cover of the area representative of the station? So if there's a lot more grass than drive (as one would expect), then your example would count as a day with snow lying. At Cranleigh, we had 3 consecutive days last week which just about qualified at 9am, even though the covering was very thin in each case and had almost all melted by a couple of hours later. -- John Hall "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817) |
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Today was the 12th consecutive day of snow falling...and looks like tommorow
will be (unlucky??) 13.... Steve. Stevenage, Herts - 125M asl. "John Hall" wrote in message ... In article , Phil Layton writes: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? I don't know if the definition has changed, but didn't it use to be 50% cover of the area representative of the station? So if there's a lot more grass than drive (as one would expect), then your example would count as a day with snow lying. At Cranleigh, we had 3 consecutive days last week which just about qualified at 9am, even though the covering was very thin in each case and had almost all melted by a couple of hours later. -- John Hall "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." From "Emma" by Jane Austen (1775-1817) |
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![]() Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? Tomorrow looks as though it will be the 12th. Saturday possible late and Sunday looks reasonable and may be the last (for a while) Phil -- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.layton/meteo.htm The COL criterion is 50% but it doesn't say 50% of what, precisely. My own view is that one should look wherever possible at natural surfaces, eg grass, fields etc. Concrete or tarred surfaces conduct heat up from the ground rather quickly and are not "natural". Also snow is removed from them mechanically by traffic or people walking on it. My "natural surface" for snow cover estimation is the grass (lawn? joking) in my back garden. There were 5 days in February with a snow cover here and there was one again this morning, estimated 4 cm. It's still there and will be tomorrow morning as well, I reckon. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft. |
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![]() Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? Tomorrow looks as though it will be the 12th. Saturday possible late and Sunday looks reasonable and may be the last (for a while) Phil -- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.layton/meteo.htm The COL criterion is 50% but it doesn't say 50% of what, precisely. My own view is that one should look wherever possible at natural surfaces, eg grass, fields etc. Concrete or tarred surfaces conduct heat up from the ground rather quickly and are not "natural". Also snow is removed from them mechanically by traffic or people walking on it. My "natural surface" for snow cover estimation is the grass (lawn? joking) in my back garden. There were 5 days in February with a snow cover here and there was one again this morning, estimated 4 cm. It's still there and will be tomorrow morning as well, I reckon. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft. |
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![]() Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? Tomorrow looks as though it will be the 12th. Saturday possible late and Sunday looks reasonable and may be the last (for a while) Phil -- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.layton/meteo.htm The COL criterion is 50% but it doesn't say 50% of what, precisely. My own view is that one should look wherever possible at natural surfaces, eg grass, fields etc. Concrete or tarred surfaces conduct heat up from the ground rather quickly and are not "natural". Also snow is removed from them mechanically by traffic or people walking on it. My "natural surface" for snow cover estimation is the grass (lawn? joking) in my back garden. There were 5 days in February with a snow cover here and there was one again this morning, estimated 4 cm. It's still there and will be tomorrow morning as well, I reckon. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft. |
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![]() Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. However, I dont think I can record any with snow lying at 09Z, with only patchy covering (ie. hard surfaces have generally melted) and amounts not more than 0.5cm. Martin - could you remind me what % counts as 'snow lying ' ? If one had 90% grass covered but 10% drive not - does that count ? Tomorrow looks as though it will be the 12th. Saturday possible late and Sunday looks reasonable and may be the last (for a while) Phil -- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.layton/meteo.htm The COL criterion is 50% but it doesn't say 50% of what, precisely. My own view is that one should look wherever possible at natural surfaces, eg grass, fields etc. Concrete or tarred surfaces conduct heat up from the ground rather quickly and are not "natural". Also snow is removed from them mechanically by traffic or people walking on it. My "natural surface" for snow cover estimation is the grass (lawn? joking) in my back garden. There were 5 days in February with a snow cover here and there was one again this morning, estimated 4 cm. It's still there and will be tomorrow morning as well, I reckon. Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 556 ft. |
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![]() "Tudor Hughes" wrote in message ps.com... Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. ... now (4th March), the 12th consecutive day with snow (or variants) falling. As to snow lying (to meet definition previously posted), we have had 4 such occasions. The 'Winter Snow Index (Eden) is currently = 09 (see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w....htm#SnowIndex ) Martin. -- Martin Rowley: data via - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/metindex.htm Bracknell (Wooden Hill/Tawfield), Berkshire NGR: SU 854 667 Elev: 80m Lat: 51DEG23MIN30SEC(N): Long: 00DEG46MIN28SEC(W) |
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![]() "Tudor Hughes" wrote in message ps.com... Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. ... now (4th March), the 12th consecutive day with snow (or variants) falling. As to snow lying (to meet definition previously posted), we have had 4 such occasions. The 'Winter Snow Index (Eden) is currently = 09 (see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w....htm#SnowIndex ) Martin. -- Martin Rowley: data via - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/metindex.htm Bracknell (Wooden Hill/Tawfield), Berkshire NGR: SU 854 667 Elev: 80m Lat: 51DEG23MIN30SEC(N): Long: 00DEG46MIN28SEC(W) |
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![]() "Tudor Hughes" wrote in message ps.com... Phil Layton wrote: A light snow shower this afternoon has recorded the 11th consecutive day of snow here. ... now (4th March), the 12th consecutive day with snow (or variants) falling. As to snow lying (to meet definition previously posted), we have had 4 such occasions. The 'Winter Snow Index (Eden) is currently = 09 (see http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.w....htm#SnowIndex ) Martin. -- Martin Rowley: data via - http://homepage.ntlworld.com/booty.weather/metindex.htm Bracknell (Wooden Hill/Tawfield), Berkshire NGR: SU 854 667 Elev: 80m Lat: 51DEG23MIN30SEC(N): Long: 00DEG46MIN28SEC(W) |
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