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November 17th 04, 10:55 AM
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Hi all,
The front currently over us has been very susceptible to waves and the models have had difficulty handling these, not surprising with a 120KT jet just to the N. Tomorrow's cold front set to sink SSE looks like being delayed from clearing the S as a further, more developed wave passes E. With cold air to the N of this, snow/sleet may fall on higher ground over Northern England if the front pushes that far N. http://129.13.102.67/pics/brack0a.gif Dave/Steve, reports most welcome tomorrow afternoon ! ATB, Joe |
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November 17th 04, 12:59 PM
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:55:24 -0000, Joe Hunt wrote:
With cold air to the N of this, snow/sleet may fall on higher ground over Northern England if the front pushes that far N. http://129.13.102.67/pics/brack0a.gif Dave/Steve, reports most welcome tomorrow afternoon ! Me Dave? My current view is that it going to be still just a little too warm. It may well fall as sleet or even snow but I don't think it'll hang about long. The 528dm line is still to the north of us on that chart and past experience has shown that it needs reasonably well to the south for real snow to fall. Friday might be different if there is anything coming down on the northerlies but we tend to be in the rain shadow of the Highlands then. NW'ly or E'ly are the "best" directions for heavy snowfall up here. Currently: F5 WNW'ly 7.2C (see warm...) -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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November 17th 04, 03:26 PM
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Dave - fame and fortune at last ! Paul Brampton still 9.5c ! |
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November 17th 04, 06:53 PM
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:26:07 -0000, Paul Crabtree wrote:
Dave - fame and fortune at last ! B-) But I'm used to having my name on the small screen not that it has appeared for a while. Still nearer 6C than 5C up here at 1945. Thats wet sleet conditions at best. The trend is still down but it's been very shallow for the last 4 hrs or so. Wind is still about an F5 at most from the WNW, though it's starting to get variable and the noise indicates a possible peaks of a few minutes to F6. Unfortunately tommorow afternoon I won't be up here but down in Carlisle (hoping I can get back home...) Hum, wonder if I can make a tiny image of my webcam available via my phone...? No use after 1600 though as it's too dark by then. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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November 17th 04, 07:56 PM
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In article om,
Dave Liquorice writes: Unfortunately tommorow afternoon I won't be up here but down in Carlisle (hoping I can get back home...) Hum, wonder if I can make a tiny image of my webcam available via my phone...? No use after 1600 though as it's too dark by then. What's the phase of the moon? If it's near full, the skies have cleared by then, and there's a full snow cover, then you might be able to see quite a lot.  -- John Hall "Do you have cornflakes in America?" "Well, actually, they're American." "So what brings you to Britain then if you have cornflakes already?" Bill Bryson: "Notes from a Small Island" |
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November 17th 04, 08:30 PM
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On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 20:56:14 +0000, John Hall wrote:
What's the phase of the moon? 1st quarter. If it's near full, the skies have cleared by then, and there's a full snow cover, then you might be able to see quite a lot. If I had a seriously expensive camera like wot the MetO does then you only need starlight, but I don't. It would be better if it had a DC iris lens but as it is it's fixed at about F16 so it doesn't burn out (too much) on bright days. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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November 17th 04, 06:16 PM
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"Joe Hunt" wrote in message ... Hi all, The front currently over us has been very susceptible to waves and the models have had difficulty handling these, not surprising with a 120KT jet just to the N. Tomorrow's cold front set to sink SSE looks like being delayed from clearing the S as a further, more developed wave passes E. With cold air to the N of this, snow/sleet may fall on higher ground over Northern England if the front pushes that far N. The NW Tonight forecast mentioned sleet/snow above 6-800ft. This surprised me somewhat as that isn't much higher than here. Might just be worth looking for the odd snowflake in the streetlights tomorrow evening...... BTW just stopped raining after pretty much 2½ days continuous rain. Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html |
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November 17th 04, 06:21 PM
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"Col" wrote in message ...
"Joe Hunt" wrote in message ... Hi all, The front currently over us has been very susceptible to waves and the models have had difficulty handling these, not surprising with a 120KT jet just to the N. Tomorrow's cold front set to sink SSE looks like being delayed from clearing the S as a further, more developed wave passes E. With cold air to the N of this, snow/sleet may fall on higher ground over Northern England if the front pushes that far N. The NW Tonight forecast mentioned sleet/snow above 6-800ft. This surprised me somewhat as that isn't much higher than here. Might just be worth looking for the odd snowflake in the streetlights tomorrow evening...... BTW just stopped raining after pretty much 2½ days continuous rain. Col -- Bolton, Lancashire. 160m asl. http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co.uk http://www.reddwarfer.btinternet.co....rPictures.html Didn't know you were a lampost watcher Col. Regards, Rob Chester, UK http://www.west-cheshire.ac.uk/weather/ |
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November 17th 04, 06:23 PM
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"Col" wrote in message ... The NW Tonight forecast mentioned sleet/snow above 6-800ft. This surprised me somewhat as that isn't much higher than here. Might just be worth looking for the odd snowflake in the streetlights tomorrow evening...... BTW just stopped raining after pretty much 2½ days continuous rain. Col Hi Col, I saw the same forecast, she's a ditz who presents it isn't she ?! The progs are in good agreement with this wave depression, however it has slowed ever so slightly, allowing deeper penetration S of the colder air. This in turn will lower the freezing level. I think evaporative cooling will play a big part tomorrow given little or no gradient. Don't expect anything to lie, especially after today's deluge and the ground being too warm when the sleet/snow falls. Snake Pass will be fun tomorrow at rush hour, it rises to 512m (1680ft) at one point, a good mile of it is over 500m. ATB, Joe |
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