New warning out. Not on Met Office site yet though.
http://uk.weather.com/weather/alerts/

Regards,

Rob
Chester, UK
http://www.west-cheshire.ac.uk/weather/

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Not unreasonable. Emphasis is correctly on the rain in my view. Very large drops
and lots of them, probably whites and reds on the radar display. Possible line
convection on the cold front leading to local deluges. Would not be surprised to
get the odd thunderstorm as well.
Winds are going to be strong, but as they will be mostly in the warm sector the
stability will mitigate surface gusts, except over high ground where lee
gustiness could be a problem, but upland folk are used to gales and the wind
will not be an unusual feature. My concern, though is that as the low deepens
there could be a temporary core of severe gales to the SW of the low over
Scotland in unstable air. Here, gusts to 80 mph are not unlikely.

Will.
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Rob Bale wrote in message ...
New warning out. Not on Met Office site yet though.
http://uk.weather.com/weather/alerts/

Regards,

Rob
Chester, UK
http://www.west-cheshire.ac.uk/weather/

Will wrote:
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Not unreasonable. Emphasis is correctly on the rain in my view. Very large drops
and lots of them, probably whites and reds on the radar display. Possible line
convection on the cold front leading to local deluges. Would not be surprised to
get the odd thunderstorm as well.
Winds are going to be strong, but as they will be mostly in the warm sector the
stability will mitigate surface gusts, except over high ground where lee
gustiness could be a problem, but upland folk are used to gales and the wind
will not be an unusual feature. My concern, though is that as the low deepens
there could be a temporary core of severe gales to the SW of the low over
Scotland in unstable air. Here, gusts to 80 mph are not unlikely.

Will,

Thank you for that explanation. As a relative beginner, I found it very
useful, being posted before the event.

I am now in a better position to know what to look out for.

--
Howard Neil

I do find this most intriguing, having read this warning and the one
previously at the met office.

It is strange how the forecast on the BBC site (for my location) have today
and tomorrow shown as 'sunny intervals' with not a droplet of rain appearing
in the next five days. Admittedly they do show winds of 31 mph for tomorrow
with a pressure of 981 ... but a temperature of 16 (rather warm).

So, taking into account the two severe weather warnings, and the above
forecast, a trip to the beach is planned for tomorrow.

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Gianna Stefani
http://www.meteo.jasmin-bear.org



"Rob Bale" wrote in message
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New warning out. Not on Met Office site yet though.
http://uk.weather.com/weather/alerts/

Regards,

Rob
Chester, UK
http://www.west-cheshire.ac.uk/weather/

Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Rob Bale :
New warning out. Not on Met Office site yet though.
http://uk.weather.com/weather/alerts/

I note with interest:

.... " DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES, PARTICULARLY SINCE
THEY ARE STILL IN FULL LEAF AT PRESENT"

Ours certainly aren't in full leaf. Half the leaves were on the lawn when
I mowed it yesterday. This seems to be a relatively early fall compared
to recent years.

Adrian
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... " DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES, PARTICULARLY SINCE
THEY ARE STILL IN FULL LEAF AT PRESENT"



Anyone else think this is poor English? Either the trees are 'still in
full leaf' or 'in full leaf at present', aren't they?

Ayesha wrote in message . ..
: ... " DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES, PARTICULARLY SINCE
: THEY ARE STILL IN FULL LEAF AT PRESENT"
:Anyone else think this is poor English? Either the trees are 'still in
:full leaf' or 'in full leaf at present', aren't they?

I agree up to a point. The phrase "at present" adds nothing to "still".

" ... DAMAGING 60-70MPH GUSTS. THESE MAY LEAD TO DISRUPTION
TO TRANSPORT DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES ... "

I object more to the use of "due to" - it should be "owing to" - and even
more to the wrong spelling of the word "superseded" at the end of the
warning.

"THIS WARNING IS LIKELY TO BE UPDATED AROUND 09:00 TOMORROW MORNING
UNLESS SUPERCEDED BY FLASH MESSAGES."

Colin Youngs
Brussels

"Colin Youngs" wrote in message
...
Ayesha wrote in message . ..
: ... " DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES, PARTICULARLY SINCE
: THEY ARE STILL IN FULL LEAF AT PRESENT"
:Anyone else think this is poor English? Either the trees are 'still in
:full leaf' or 'in full leaf at present', aren't they?

I agree up to a point. The phrase "at present" adds nothing to "still".

" ... DAMAGING 60-70MPH GUSTS. THESE MAY LEAD TO DISRUPTION
TO TRANSPORT DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES ... "

I object more to the use of "due to" - it should be "owing to" - and even
more to the wrong spelling of the word "superseded" at the end of the
warning.

"THIS WARNING IS LIKELY TO BE UPDATED AROUND 09:00 TOMORROW MORNING
UNLESS SUPERCEDED BY FLASH MESSAGES."

I would prefer they worked on getting the forecast correct before
worrying about the semantics, grammar and spelling.

But perhaps that's just me?

Col
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Col wrote:

"Colin Youngs" wrote in message
...
Ayesha wrote in message . ..
: ... " DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES, PARTICULARLY SINCE
: THEY ARE STILL IN FULL LEAF AT PRESENT"
:Anyone else think this is poor English? Either the trees are 'still in
:full leaf' or 'in full leaf at present', aren't they?

I agree up to a point. The phrase "at present" adds nothing to "still".

" ... DAMAGING 60-70MPH GUSTS. THESE MAY LEAD TO DISRUPTION
TO TRANSPORT DUE TO FALLEN DEBRIS FROM TREES ... "

I object more to the use of "due to" - it should be "owing to" - and even
more to the wrong spelling of the word "superseded" at the end of the
warning.

"THIS WARNING IS LIKELY TO BE UPDATED AROUND 09:00 TOMORROW MORNING
UNLESS SUPERCEDED BY FLASH MESSAGES."

I would prefer they worked on getting the forecast correct before
worrying about the semantics, grammar and spelling.

But perhaps that's just me?

Col

But isn't the precise use of language and clarity of expression at the
heart of good science?

Anyone else think this is poor English? Either the trees are 'still in
full leaf' or 'in full leaf at present', aren't they?

Compared with some of the grammar, spelling and punctuation seen on this
group the sentence quoted could well have been written by Dr. Johnson.
Don't get too fussy!

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A: Which Tyler.

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