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Spring must be on the way. The sun's peeking between the clouds, it's a
balmy 8.6C, and the first daffodil has opened. Don't ask me what
variety. It's yellow.
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:47:18 +0100, Steve Loft wrote:

Spring must be on the way. The sun's peeking between the clouds,
it's a balmy 8.6C, and the first daffodil has opened.


Out "control" clumps were almost out yesterday. Max of 14.9C yesterday
only 9.7C so far today, slightly more cloud about. Will have to have
look today, last year it was the 4th April for "first daffs".

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

Out "control" clumps were almost out yesterday. Max of 14.9C yesterday
only 9.7C so far today, slightly more cloud about. Will have to have
look today, last year it was the 4th April for "first daffs".


We're seriously considering a poly tunnel if we're to have any hopes of
growing anything here.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:56:32 +0100, Steve Loft wrote:

We're seriously considering a poly tunnel if we're to have any hopes
of growing anything here.


If you get anything like the winds we do a poly tunnel won't survive
the first winter. There are some down in village, 400' lower and
sheltered by our standards but a good blow will damage those and their
life is shorter than normal.

Our Daffs weren't out yesterday, quite a cloudy cool day, today is
over 10C already, bright and sunny.

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

If you get anything like the winds we do a poly tunnel won't survive
the first winter. There are some down in village, 400' lower and
sheltered by our standards but a good blow will damage those and their
life is shorter than normal.


I've been quite surprised so far by how we don't seem to get really
strong winds here, despite the altitude. I guess it's because we aren't
at the top of a hill, as I imagine you to be. The village seems to be
quite sheltered on all sides by the closely surrounding hills of heights
between 500 and 600m, i.e. around 100-200m higher than us.

The highest 10-minute average wind speed I've recorded this winter is
39.1 mph, and the highest gust 62.8 mph, not too bad at all.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:19:34 +0100, Steve Loft wrote:

I've been quite surprised so far by how we don't seem to get really
strong winds here, despite the altitude. I guess it's because we
aren't at the top of a hill, as I imagine you to be.


Well we aren't "on the top" by 500 to 1000' depending on the hill you
choose but we do have a good view thus are pretty exposed... Tucked
down in the valley bottom we aren't, they have big trees down there
that grow straight. We have little ones that lean and grow only on one
side...

The highest 10-minute average wind speed I've recorded this winter
is 39.1 mph, and the highest gust 62.8 mph, not too bad at all.


39 is F8 or a true Gale. I doubt many places really get true gales.
Remember the media hype wind speeds by quoting the highest gusts not
the mean. Highest gusts are 20mph or more above the mean at the time
of the gust. So 50mph peak gusts means means of 30mph(ish), a mere
Strong Breeze...

I *think* there is a square law in the relationship between generated
force and wind speed as well.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:12:30 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote in
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I *think* there is a square law in the relationship between generated
force and wind speed as well.


Dave - you are indeed correct. The forces due to the wind are proportional
to V^2 and power to V^3.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:39:30 +0100, Mike Tullett wrote:

Dave - you are indeed correct. The forces due to the wind are
proportional to V^2 and power to V^3.


So a 30mph wind produces a force fo "900". A 40mph wind a force fo
"1600" nearly double... You only have to look around the garden here
to see that sustained 30 and 40mph winds don't leave a lot behind...

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