15:07 20Jan2004 RTRS-Extreme cold expected in U.S. next 2 weeks

NEW YORK, Jan 20 (Reuters) - The United States east of the Rocky
Mountains will see extreme cold in the next three weeks with at least one
forecaster calling it the coldest in 25 years, meteorologists said on
Tuesday.
"In the next six to 10 days, it will be colder than normal north of a
line from Washington, D.C. to Denver," said Joe *******i of AccuWeather. "In
the next 15 to 20 days, everybody is extremely cold including freezes into
Florida and Texas.
"In the worst-case scenario, in much of the energy consuming areas of
the country, from the Rockies to New England, can look at the coldest 10- to
20-day periods since the winters of 1977 and 1978," *******i said.
Oil and heating oil prices were up partly on colder forecasts than last
Friday when the markets were last open, oil industry analysts said on
Tuesday. Heating oil futures were up 2.5 percent Tuesday morning, with crude
oil up 1.8 percent.
Natural gas futures were up 5.2 percent Tuesday, with the link to
weather more clear, said energy traders and analysts.
And forecasters agree.
"Everybody is waking up to this," *******i said of the extreme cold
forecasts for the next 10- to 15 days. "Natural gas is surging like crazy
this morning."
The National Weather Service is predicting that Friday the Midwest and
Northeast will have temperatures 8 F to 12 F below normal, with Jan. 27
still showing below normal temperatures for northern New England and with
temperatures near normal for New York City.
Forecaster Meteorlogix said the five-day outlook for the Northeast shows
up to 12 F below normal by Wednesday and up to 15F below normal by Saturday.
In the same time period, the Midwest will be up to 10 F below normal
Wednesday and up to 4 F below normal on Saturday.
The six- to 10-day forecast shows "below normal" temperatures for the
Northeast and northern part of the Midwest, Meteorlogix said on Tuesday.

Tuesday, 20 January 2004 15:07:29RTRS [nN20481445] {EN}ENDS

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC), "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

15:07 20Jan2004 RTRS-Extreme cold expected in U.S. next 2 weeks
snip
"In the worst-case scenario, in much of the energy consuming areas of
the country, from the Rockies to New England, can look at the coldest 10- to
20-day periods since the winters of 1977 and 1978," *******i said.
snip

Just a question: What about the winter of 1983-84? In December
1983 lows below -50 C were recorded along the midwest Canadian border.
This cold wave was called "the Siberian Express" and scored all time
lows all over central and Eastern parts of the US at the end of
December 1983.

Maybe some US based readers might add some more details.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/

"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC), "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

15:07 20Jan2004 RTRS-Extreme cold expected in U.S. next 2 weeks
snip
"In the worst-case scenario, in much of the energy consuming areas of
the country, from the Rockies to New England, can look at the coldest 10-
to
20-day periods since the winters of 1977 and 1978," *******i said.
snip

Just a question: What about the winter of 1983-84? In December
1983 lows below -50 C were recorded along the midwest Canadian border.
This cold wave was called "the Siberian Express" and scored all time
lows all over central and Eastern parts of the US at the end of
December 1983.

Maybe some US based readers might add some more details.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/


Evert. What I find exciting is that this is happening during the "Ravages"
of global warming.
Last year it was record NH snow cover, the year before the coldest temp ever
recorded in the NH (not sure if it was verified). OK all isolated snippets
off emperical evidence but surely its all not going to plan. never mind fuel
prices set to rise in the UK as the Co2 tax goes into force.
Actually while I'm on this topic why if serious about energy wastage raise
revenue to pay for more spongers whilst the elderly and hard working will
be hit the hardest. If the tax eating monster is serious about energy
profligacy, why not ration/limit usage instead of robbing the honest even
more.

Joe B feelsthat the clocks turning back to winters of the 50's and 60's

"lawrence jenkins" wrote in message
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"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC), "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

15:07 20Jan2004 RTRS-Extreme cold expected in U.S. next 2 weeks
snip
"In the worst-case scenario, in much of the energy consuming areas
of
the country, from the Rockies to New England, can look at the coldest
10-
to
20-day periods since the winters of 1977 and 1978," *******i said.
snip

Just a question: What about the winter of 1983-84? In December
1983 lows below -50 C were recorded along the midwest Canadian border.
This cold wave was called "the Siberian Express" and scored all time
lows all over central and Eastern parts of the US at the end of
December 1983.

Maybe some US based readers might add some more details.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/


Evert. What I find exciting is that this is happening during the "Ravages"
of global warming.
Last year it was record NH snow cover, the year before the coldest temp
ever
recorded in the NH (not sure if it was verified). OK all isolated snippets
off emperical evidence but surely its all not going to plan. never mind
fuel
prices set to rise in the UK as the Co2 tax goes into force.
Actually while I'm on this topic why if serious about energy wastage raise
revenue to pay for more spongers whilst the elderly and hard working will
be hit the hardest. If the tax eating monster is serious about energy
profligacy, why not ration/limit usage instead of robbing the honest even
more.

Joe B feelsthat the clocks turning back to winters of the 50's and 60's


Come on Lawrence don't play the plonker with us, you do know the difference
between weather
and climate don't you? Surely?

Joe, *allways* forecasts cold btw...

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:30:28 +0000 (UTC), "lawrence jenkins"
wrote:

Evert. What I find exciting is that this is happening during the "Ravages"
of global warming.
Last year it was record NH snow cover, the year before the coldest temp ever
recorded in the NH (not sure if it was verified).

2003 was not a record snow cover on the NH. On the orther hand it
was appreciably above the 1967-2003 average. Eastern Europe, Western
and Southern Asia saw plenty of snow. The snow cover on America was
below average.
The ice cover at the Arctic was 10% below the 1988 - 2000 average.
Only 2002 saw a lower ice cover. The coldest T on the NH stands on
-70 C (Vergojansk, NE Siberia), and that was not in 2003.

Anyway, looking at weather incidents doesn't help. One should try to
get the overall picture (and look at long year trends).

Anyway, I wasn't really impressed by the initial post. The weather
in North America is capable of producing impressive extremes. And I
think: Irrespective of the Greenhouse effect.

And again:
If there were a 'Manual for Planet Earth', the chapter on climate
regulation would probably read: 'The climate is tuned to maximum
comfort for mankind. It is strongly advised to keep your hands away
from the control buttons!' The big question is: 'Do we keep our hands
away from these buttons?' The last evidence from research on climate
change related subjects starts to show that this is at least to some
extent not the case.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/

"lawrence jenkins" wrote in message ...
"Evert Wesker" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC), "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

15:07 20Jan2004 RTRS-Extreme cold expected in U.S. next 2 weeks
snip
"In the worst-case scenario, in much of the energy consuming areas of
the country, from the Rockies to New England, can look at the coldest 10-
to
20-day periods since the winters of 1977 and 1978," *******i said.
snip

Just a question: What about the winter of 1983-84? In December
1983 lows below -50 C were recorded along the midwest Canadian border.
This cold wave was called "the Siberian Express" and scored all time
lows all over central and Eastern parts of the US at the end of
December 1983.

Maybe some US based readers might add some more details.

Mazzel & broge / kind regards, Evert Wesker
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
http://come.to/wesker (redirect URL, no adv's), or
http://www.euronet.nl/users/e_wesker/


Evert. What I find exciting is that this is happening during the "Ravages"
of global warming.
Last year it was record NH snow cover, the year before the coldest temp ever
recorded in the NH (not sure if it was verified).

It wasn't - the report in question appears to have been a simple case
of a Fahrenheit report being misinterpreted as Celsius (it was
something like -73 F/-58 C - still notably cold in the region where it
occurred - but got misreported as -73 C).

Blair Trewin
National Climate Centre
Australian Bureau of Meteorology