Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
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0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
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0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

0900z 06002kt 0120 FG VV/// +01.4/+01.0 1034
RMK: Fog rolled in from the SE around 0700z and has
persisted since then with vis mostly 100-150m. All of
the frost has gone.
09-09z: Tx 13.3 (1513z) Tn -2.4 (0616z) RR nil
15-09z: Tg -5.6 (0444z) 00-24z: Sun 9.1

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
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0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

0900z 06002kt 0120 FG VV/// +01.4/+01.0 1034
RMK: Fog rolled in from the SE around 0700z and has
persisted since then with vis mostly 100-150m. All of
the frost has gone.
09-09z: Tx 13.3 (1513z) Tn -2.4 (0616z) RR nil
15-09z: Tg -5.6 (0444z) 00-24z: Sun 9.1

1700z 07006kt 10km 7St005 03.2/01.7 1032
RMK: Fog slowly thinned after 0900z and lifted into low
cloud around 1100z. The afternoon was mostly cloudy but
there were a couple of brief glimpses of the sun. The max
temp was 4.8C and with a raw breeze all day it was very
different from the summery feel of yesterday.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 5:18:19 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
---------------------------------------------------------------------

0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

0900z 06002kt 0120 FG VV/// +01.4/+01.0 1034
RMK: Fog rolled in from the SE around 0700z and has
persisted since then with vis mostly 100-150m. All of
the frost has gone.
09-09z: Tx 13.3 (1513z) Tn -2.4 (0616z) RR nil
15-09z: Tg -5.6 (0444z) 00-24z: Sun 9.1
1700z 07006kt 10km 7St005 03.2/01.7 1032
RMK: Fog slowly thinned after 0900z and lifted into low
cloud around 1100z. The afternoon was mostly cloudy but
there were a couple of brief glimpses of the sun. The max
temp was 4.8C and with a raw breeze all day it was very
different from the summery feel of yesterday.
--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

An amazing contrast today with where I am in Didsbury, south Manchester, Norman.
Today here was almost a replica of yesterday - clear blue sky and unbroken sunshine
from the word go, with another frosty start and again very dry air and calm conditions,
though the day max temp was somewhat cooler - perhaps 2c down on yesterday. This
evening a slight easterly breeze has set in and it is now feeling colder. So whereas
yesterday we were almost 1c cooler than you, today we have been at least 5c warmer.

Peter Nockles
Didsbury
south Manchester M20

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:39:53 PM UTC, Peter Nockles wrote:
On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 5:18:19 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
---------------------------------------------------------------------

0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

0900z 06002kt 0120 FG VV/// +01.4/+01.0 1034
RMK: Fog rolled in from the SE around 0700z and has
persisted since then with vis mostly 100-150m. All of
the frost has gone.
09-09z: Tx 13.3 (1513z) Tn -2.4 (0616z) RR nil
15-09z: Tg -5.6 (0444z) 00-24z: Sun 9.1
1700z 07006kt 10km 7St005 03.2/01.7 1032
RMK: Fog slowly thinned after 0900z and lifted into low
cloud around 1100z. The afternoon was mostly cloudy but
there were a couple of brief glimpses of the sun. The max
temp was 4.8C and with a raw breeze all day it was very
different from the summery feel of yesterday.
--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr
An amazing contrast today with where I am in Didsbury, south Manchester, Norman.
Today here was almost a replica of yesterday - clear blue sky and unbroken sunshine
from the word go, with another frosty start and again very dry air and calm conditions,
though the day max temp was somewhat cooler - perhaps 2c down on yesterday. This
evening a slight easterly breeze has set in and it is now feeling colder. So whereas
yesterday we were almost 1c cooler than you, today we have been at least 5c warmer.

Peter Nockles
Didsbury
south Manchester M20


P.S. In fact 11.5c was today's Rostherne's max temp - just 1c down on Sunday, and up to 6c or 7c
higher than locations not that far to the east and south.

Peter Nockles

Peter Nockles wrote:

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 5:18:19 PM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Tideswell, Derbyshire Monday 1st March 2021
---------------------------------------------------------------------

0630z CALM 1500 BR 1Sc015 -02.4/-03.2 1034
RMK: Another frosty morning. The mist is thicker than it
was yesterday morning. The temperature has been below
0C since midnight.

0900z 06002kt 0120 FG VV/// +01.4/+01.0 1034
RMK: Fog rolled in from the SE around 0700z and has
persisted since then with vis mostly 100-150m. All of
the frost has gone.
09-09z: Tx 13.3 (1513z) Tn -2.4 (0616z) RR nil
15-09z: Tg -5.6 (0444z) 00-24z: Sun 9.1
1700z 07006kt 10km 7St005 03.2/01.7 1032
RMK: Fog slowly thinned after 0900z and lifted into low
cloud around 1100z. The afternoon was mostly cloudy but
there were a couple of brief glimpses of the sun. The max
temp was 4.8C and with a raw breeze all day it was very
different from the summery feel of yesterday.
--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

An amazing contrast today with where I am in Didsbury, south Manchester,
Norman. Today here was almost a replica of yesterday - clear blue sky and
unbroken sunshine from the word go, with another frosty start and again very
dry air and calm conditions, though the day max temp was somewhat cooler -
perhaps 2c down on yesterday. This evening a slight easterly breeze has set
in and it is now feeling colder. So whereas yesterday we were almost 1c
cooler than you, today we have been at least 5c warmer.

Peter Nockles
Didsbury
south Manchester M20

Indeed. Satellite imagery showed that the western edge of the fog/low cloud was
just to the west of here all day yesterday. We got a couple of very brief,
fleeting glimses of the sun but that was it. The sunshine recorder clocked up
0.02 hours of sunshine i.e about 1 minute. Max temp was only 4.8C.

Today (Tuesday) we are once again in the fog but the satellite imagery is
showing clear skies very close to the NW and extending all the way to Stockport
and Manchester. I should think there's warm sunshine less than 5 miles from
here but, for now (09:55 a.m.) the fog is thickening again and the temp is
+0.2C. Such localised detail is unforecastable and, even if it was
forecastable, radio and TV forecasters don't get enough time to produce other
than very broad brush forecasting. This morning I heard the Radio4 forecaster
saying that there would be 'sunshine in places'. I live in a 'place', does that
mean we should have sunshine? That's said somewhat tongue in cheek, but that
phrase, 'in places', is of no value whatsoever in a forecast.

It's a great pity that more people don't use satellite and radar imagery for
DIY nowcasting. It's much more reliable than anything on radio, TV or
smartphones.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr

This morning I heard the Radio4 forecaster
saying that there would be 'sunshine in places'. I live in a 'place', does that
mean we should have sunshine? That's said somewhat tongue in cheek, but that
phrase, 'in places', is of no value whatsoever in a forecast.

It's a great pity that more people don't use satellite and radar imagery for
DIY nowcasting. It's much more reliable than anything on radio, TV or
smartphones.
--

Agreed. With low stratus we get little local warning of the cloud clearance. Here, yesterday the cloud lifted at 1145am. Right now, there's no sign of any brightening compared with an hour or so ago, but Meteosat shows that sunshine is breaking through in Sussex right now, much as it did yesterday.. I'd have no idea otherwise.

There is something reassuring about a 'textbook' spring easterly with stratus lapping up to the mountains - good to see the tops of the Black Mountains and the Mendip Hills appearing above the murk. Forecasters really should say 'sunny in the west, dull again in central and some eastern areas' at least - but then you have the situation that Deal will have more sunshine than Herefordshire and Somerset.

Several times recently the presenter of the R4 PM programme, Evan Davis, has handed over to the weather forecaster admitting that there was only one minute left for the national weather forecast. You cannot postpone the hourly time signal but you can control programme content!

Julian
Molesey, Surrey