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Just in case this SST Anomaly storminess thing is onto anything.
Up to the highest figure since Ophelia passage Oct 2017. Based around the paper , URL below as not compacted Selecting the same 3 pairs of Atlantic sea-area NOAA produced SST anomaly, and a notional value of 100 for most storminess (for Eng Channel) 3 digit numbers are the 2017 day-number (days from 00:00, 01 jan 2017), this exploration starting at 12 October 2017 October 285, 43 289, 73 292, 66 : 292, (NHC) Hurricane Ophelia 296, 58 :294, Storm Brian 299, 68 303,58 November 306, 45 310, 49 313, 55 : 312, TS Rina (MS check archives jan/feb 2018) 317, 47 : 314, putative NHC TD/TS 20, dissipated before UK 320, 36 324, 45 327, 48 331, 51 334, 58 December 338, 54: 341 , Storm Caroline affecting Scotland 341, 58 : 344, no named storm but 90mph gusts in the English Channel with a 971mB low 345, 42 348, 34 352, 59 ( no named storm, very localised force 9 westerlies for Ireland on 14 Dec) 355, 38 The prior month component suggesting a stormy January 2018, considering that component is negative currently 359, 35 362,62, Storm Dylan 30-31 Dec 2017 2018 001, 43 ,Storm Eleanor 02-03 Jan 2018 004,44 ,p/p 45 Processing the previous month ,selected pair of areas, as if next month for the principal component p/p value,for year-day plus 30days so if the other components are non negative, then the minimum 3 component combined pointer value out of 100 for the next month 008,51, p/p 46 011, 57,p/p 41 015, 55, p/p 43 snowstorm 16-17 Jan Storm Fionn + Storm with no name,tropospheric baroclinic wave and associated fast moving surface low, but violent storm force 11 in sea area Thames 18 Jan 2018 018,53,p/p 43 022, 52, p/p 30 , Storm Georgina 23 Jan 025, 54,p/p 31 029, 69, p/p 26 Storminess and surges in the South Western Approaches of the eastern North Atlantic: The synoptic climatology ... https://www.researchgate.net/profile...tal-Storms.pdf |
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On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 9:13:08 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote:
Just in case this SST Anomaly storminess thing is onto anything. Up to the highest figure since Ophelia passage Oct 2017. Nothing particularly big currently forecast, for SW England that is. https://magicseaweed.com/Sennen-Surf-Report/4/ . Some big seas forecast for western Ireland and off western Scotland next weekend. Lovely clean wave here this morning, and the sand's already making a comeback. https://magicseaweed.com/Live-Sennen-Webcam/65/ I should imagine even the Sennen fleet will be able to get out today. Graham Penzance |
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On 30/01/2018 10:20, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 9:13:08 AM UTC, N_Cook wrote: Just in case this SST Anomaly storminess thing is onto anything. Up to the highest figure since Ophelia passage Oct 2017. Nothing particularly big currently forecast, for SW England that is. https://magicseaweed.com/Sennen-Surf-Report/4/ . Some big seas forecast for western Ireland and off western Scotland next weekend. Lovely clean wave here this morning, and the sand's already making a comeback. https://magicseaweed.com/Live-Sennen-Webcam/65/ I should imagine even the Sennen fleet will be able to get out today. Graham Penzance That was my take, but interesting if the SST business picks up something the global models have not , in the prediction sense. 55mph wind into N Ireland evening of the 31 Jan , but I now see the 06Z GFS run has knocked that back to 50mph. The NW wind for the East coast not as much as it was predicting a couple of days back. I suppose if the jetstream decided to move westward 100 miles for the 31-01 timeslot it would be problematic for southern England, but even then , not too much. |
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Whats the betting someone pulls the plug on big-data NTSLF today, just
prior to something big? AFAIK its impossible to have the same times of high tides at Portsmouth, Newhaven and Dover tomorrow, for both day-middle and day-end high tides, now showing on the NTSLF surge predictor plots for those 3 ports. http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...ast?port=Dover http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...?port=Newhaven http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...ort=Portsmouth I revisited the p/p "prior predictor" values not on that listing , for the end of Dec 2017, hinting at this peaking at the end of Jan 2018 2017 355, 38, p/p 43 The prior month component suggesting a stormy January 2018, considering that (close to the currently negative correlation) component is strongly negative currently. Processing the selected pair of areas as if it was next month, for the prior predictor p/p value, so if the other two future current month components are non negative, then the minimum 3 component combined pointer value out of 100 for the next month 359, 35 , p/p 47 (revisiting at the end of January 2018, because of a high combined storminess value, this is the peak p/p value the month before) 362,62, p/p 46,Storm Dylan 30-31 Dec 2017 |
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On 30/01/2018 11:38, N_Cook wrote:
Whats the betting someone pulls the plug on big-data NTSLF today, just prior to something big? AFAIK its impossible to have the same times of high tides at Portsmouth, Newhaven and Dover tomorrow, for both day-middle and day-end high tides, now showing on the NTSLF surge predictor plots for those 3 ports. http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...ast?port=Dover http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...?port=Newhaven http://www.ntslf.org/storm-surges/la...ort=Portsmouth I revisited the p/p "prior predictor" values not on that listing , for the end of Dec 2017, hinting at this peaking at the end of Jan 2018 2017 355, 38, p/p 43 The prior month component suggesting a stormy January 2018, considering that (close to the currently negative correlation) component is strongly negative currently. Processing the selected pair of areas as if it was next month, for the prior predictor p/p value, so if the other two future current month components are non negative, then the minimum 3 component combined pointer value out of 100 for the next month 359, 35 , p/p 47 (revisiting at the end of January 2018, because of a high combined storminess value, this is the peak p/p value the month before) 362,62, p/p 46,Storm Dylan 30-31 Dec 2017 The moon hasn't wandered off, but there is some very unusual astronomy, so those 3 well separated ports can have the same times of high water. |
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A quirk of celestial mechanics.
As the last blood-red , blue-moon, super-moon was 31 March 1866 we'll have to wait 55458 days for the next coincidence of those tides, presumably. I wonder what conjuction of harmonics gives a 55,458 day repeat. |
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