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Isn't this the inherent problem though with bright sunshine hours as a
metric - the value you get depends on how you measure it and there's no absolute value in quite the same way as there is with eg temperature or pressure. I suspect that the IM sensor is probably going to correlate better with older records ie as measured with a Campbell-Stokes instrument, which IIRC always struggled to burn a good trace for 30 minutes or so after sunrise and before sunset even on a clear day. OTOH the modern WMO definition of 120W/sqm of _direct_ irradiance is I suppose more absolute in a sense and maybe will correlate more with the BL sensor, but also seems a little more arbitrary. Presumably there are several papers in the professional literature that analyse the correlation between old and new approaches and under what circumstances they diverge. |
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 16:53:52 UTC, JohnD wrote:
Isn't this the inherent problem though with bright sunshine hours as a metric - the value you get depends on how you measure it and there's no absolute value in quite the same way as there is with eg temperature or pressure. I suspect that the IM sensor is probably going to correlate better with older records ie as measured with a Campbell-Stokes instrument, which IIRC always struggled to burn a good trace for 30 minutes or so after sunrise and before sunset even on a clear day. OTOH the modern WMO definition of 120W/sqm of _direct_ irradiance is I suppose more absolute in a sense and maybe will correlate more with the BL sensor, but also seems a little more arbitrary. Presumably there are several papers in the professional literature that analyse the correlation between old and new approaches and under what circumstances they diverge. I totally agree John, hence I will run them both and at some point be able to calculate the deviation percentage between the two. But for accuracy from what I have seen the BL wins it for me. Keith (Southend) |
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