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Light to moderate snow turned to heavy snow in the last 40 minutes all
surfaces completely covered, again!
Good job it didn't snow like this Sunday

Current temp 0.3c



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Light to moderate snow turned to heavy snow in the last 40 minutes all
surfaces completely covered, again!
Good job it didn't snow like this Sunday

Current temp 0.3c


Sorry should have said Weston Coyney.

Really snowing hard now, didn't expect this...........where is the
warning???




Graham

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In message , Graham
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Light to moderate snow turned to heavy snow in the last 40 minutes all
surfaces completely covered, again!
Good job it didn't snow like this Sunday

Current temp 0.3c


Sorry should have said Weston Coyney.

Really snowing hard now, didn't expect this...........where is the
warning???


They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in force
for ice, which says:

"Between 16:00 Wed 13th and 11:00 Thu 14th
Ice will again form on some surfaces from late Wednesday afternoon,
which will continue through the night and well into Thursday morning. In
addition, wintry showers will spread from the west with some
accumulations of snow, though mostly restricted to high ground. There
will probably be icy stretches on untreated roads, pavements and cycle
paths with some slippery surfaces likely. There is also a small chance
of travel disruption across parts of Scotland and Northern Ireland.

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm is
likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland and
Northern Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher elevations.
However, 1-2 cm is possible at low levels very locally where heavier
showers occur."
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John Hall wrote:

In message , Graham
writes
Light to moderate snow turned to heavy snow in the last 40 minutes
all surfaces completely covered, again!
Good job it didn't snow like this Sunday

Current temp 0.3c


Sorry should have said Weston Coyney.

Really snowing hard now, didn't expect this...........where is the
warning???


They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in
force for ice, which says:

"Between 16:00 Wed 13th and 11:00 Thu 14th
Ice will again form on some surfaces from late Wednesday afternoon,
which will continue through the night and well into Thursday morning.
In addition, wintry showers will spread from the west with some
accumulations of snow, though mostly restricted to high ground. There
will probably be icy stretches on untreated roads, pavements and
cycle paths with some slippery surfaces likely. There is also a small
chance of travel disruption across parts of Scotland and Northern
Ireland.

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm is
likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland and
Northern Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher
elevations. However, 1-2 cm is possible at low levels very locally
where heavier showers occur."



See my post at 1122 this morning.

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Tideswell, Derbyshire
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They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in force
for ice:

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm is
likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland and Northern
Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher elevations. However, 1-2
cm is possible at low levels very locally where heavier showers occur."


They have been caught napping on this one John. I thought it was the ice
caused by the forecasted wintry showers that was going to be the main
problem tonight, not all this snow.
4cm in less than 2 hours here, caused chaos on the roads, nowhere near this
bad on Sunday!

Another snow shower just gone through with some strong gusts.

Current temp 0.3c

Graham (Weston Coyney)



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Graham wrote:


They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in
force for ice:

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm
is likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland
and Northern Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher
elevations. However, 1-2 cm is possible at low levels very locally
where heavier showers occur."


They have been caught napping on this one John. I thought it was the
ice caused by the forecasted wintry showers that was going to be the
main problem tonight, not all this snow.
4cm in less than 2 hours here, caused chaos on the roads, nowhere
near this bad on Sunday!

Another snow shower just gone through with some strong gusts.

Current temp 0.3c

Graham (Weston Coyney)



From Derbyshire County Council at 0600 this morning. The following
roads are closed due to snow:

- A53 Axe Edge
- A54/A537 Cat and Fiddle
- A57 Snake Pass
- A6024 Holme Moss

I don't really see how the Severe Weather Warning Service could have
missed this one.

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Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
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Twitter: @TideswellWeathr
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On Thursday, December 14, 2017 at 9:05:08 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Graham wrote:


They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in
force for ice:

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm
is likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland
and Northern Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher
elevations. However, 1-2 cm is possible at low levels very locally
where heavier showers occur."


They have been caught napping on this one John. I thought it was the
ice caused by the forecasted wintry showers that was going to be the
main problem tonight, not all this snow.
4cm in less than 2 hours here, caused chaos on the roads, nowhere
near this bad on Sunday!

Another snow shower just gone through with some strong gusts.

Current temp 0.3c

Graham (Weston Coyney)



From Derbyshire County Council at 0600 this morning. The following
roads are closed due to snow:

- A53 Axe Edge
- A54/A537 Cat and Fiddle
- A57 Snake Pass
- A6024 Holme Moss

I don't really see how the Severe Weather Warning Service could have
missed this one.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr


Meanwhile, there was a snow warning right down to the coast of Cornwall earlier in the week, when there wasn't any snow whatsoever even up at Cardinham, none appears to have settled on the top of Bodmin Moor, and in many coastal areas it never dropped 4C.

3 of the last 5 days have seen the wind gusting 60mph in exposed spots, yet no warnings on 2 of the days. Gust of 65mph in St Ives within the last hour (no warning), yet we've frequently hard warnings with gusts around half of that. The WNW-NW wind is funnelling around the tip of the peninsula, a direction where the wind often well exceeds forecast values.

In fact it's been a pretty stormy & wet few days here, the cold hasn't really been much of a feature - more bleak.

Trip in a small boat anyone? https://magicseaweed.com/Live-Sennen-Webcam/65/
Currently just after low tide, but you wouldn't think so.

Graham
Penzance
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Norman Lynagh wrote:

Graham wrote:


They seem to have been caught napping. There's a yellow warning in
force for ice:

"Chief Forecaster's assessment
Most of the snow accumulations will occur above 200 m where 2-5 cm
is likely in places, mainly over higher parts of western Scotland
and Northern Ireland where greater amounts are likely at higher
elevations. However, 1-2 cm is possible at low levels very locally
where heavier showers occur."


They have been caught napping on this one John. I thought it was the
ice caused by the forecasted wintry showers that was going to be the
main problem tonight, not all this snow.
4cm in less than 2 hours here, caused chaos on the roads, nowhere
near this bad on Sunday!

Another snow shower just gone through with some strong gusts.

Current temp 0.3c

Graham (Weston Coyney)



From Derbyshire County Council at 0600 this morning. The following
roads are closed due to snow:

- A53 Axe Edge
- A54/A537 Cat and Fiddle
- A57 Snake Pass
- A6024 Holme Moss

I don't really see how the Severe Weather Warning Service could have
missed this one.



Update from Derbyshire CC at 10:50 a.m.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Heavy snow fell through the night with areas around Buxton, Chapel and
Glossop worst hit, along with other exposed routes across the county.

Our gritting teams were out non-stop overnight treating and re-treating
primary gritting routes and clearing snow, along with farmers and other
contractors helping to clear routes with four-by-four volunteers
providing support.

The following roads are now open:
A53 Axe Edge
A54/A537 Cat and Fiddle

The following roads are currently closed or impassable:
A57 Snake Pass
A6024 Holme Moss

The A515 at Sterndale Moor is now passable with care after a
jack-knifed lorry was cleared.

Our gritters and snow ploughs are still out trying to keep the main
routes clear.
---------------------------------------------------------------

There's a steady thaw in Tideswell but our road is still a mess of
slush. Current temp +2.2°

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Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
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Graham wrote:

Light to moderate snow turned to heavy snow in the last 40 minutes all
surfaces completely covered, again!
Good job it didn't snow like this Sunday

Current temp 0.3c


Sorry should have said Weston Coyney.

Really snowing hard now, didn't expect this...........where is the
warning???




Graham



Slight to moderate snow in Tideswell since about 1930z. After losing
much of the old snow cover during today's rain we've now got 3 cm of
fresh snow. Current temp +0.4° and slowly falling.

There's potential for quite a bit more overnight. All depends on the
exact track of the shower streams coming in from Liverpool Bay. The WNW
wind is often bad news here. There's quite a few sferics over the sea
to the west of Irelend so plenty of beefy showers out there.

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Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
https://peakdistrictweather.org
Twitter: @TideswellWeathr
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There's potential for quite a bit more overnight. All depends on the
exact track of the shower streams coming in from Liverpool Bay. The WNW
wind is often bad news here. There's quite a few sferics over the sea
to the west of Irelend so plenty of beefy showers out there.


Heavy snow stopped around 9.15 with 4cms, lucky we didn't get this stuff all
day Sunday Norman, we would have been buried

Looks like there are more showers on the way but whether they will fall as
snow or a wintry mix remains to be seen.
Temp did get down to 0.0c but now back up to 0.3c


Graham (Weston Coyney)








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