Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe weather
warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I would
expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend well into the
Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic effects. The shower
streams are typically quite narrow with some places catching a lot while others
not so far away get nothing. The devil is in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west), where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

I may well be proved wrong :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:50:39 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe weather
warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I would
expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend well into the
Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic effects. The shower
streams are typically quite narrow with some places catching a lot while others
not so far away get nothing. The devil is in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west), where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

On Monday, 9 January 2017 12:15:50 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:50:39 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe weather
warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I would
expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend well into the
Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic effects. The shower
streams are typically quite narrow with some places catching a lot while others
not so far away get nothing. The devil is in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west), where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

I may well be proved wrong :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

It seems a bit strange to me too.
Just Scotland and coastal regions exposed to the north wind to get snow Thurs. Fri.

But not high ground like the Pennines/Peak distict?

Len
In sheltered Wembury

On 09/01/2017 12:28, Len Wood wrote:
On Monday, 9 January 2017 12:15:50 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:50:39 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe weather
warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I would
expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend well into the
Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic effects. The shower
streams are typically quite narrow with some places catching a lot while others
not so far away get nothing. The devil is in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west), where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

I may well be proved wrong :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

It seems a bit strange to me too.
Just Scotland and coastal regions exposed to the north wind to get snow Thurs. Fri.

But not high ground like the Pennines/Peak distict?

Len
In sheltered Wembury





Dartmoor will get a good covering, it always does in NW'lies. Especially
with a jet streak intensifying activity. And yes Norman the Peaks are
going to get plastered, possibly drifting too.
Wake up UKMO.

Will
--

Eskimo Will wrote:

On 09/01/2017 12:28, Len Wood wrote:
On Monday, 9 January 2017 12:15:50 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:50:39 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe
weather warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I
would expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend
well into the Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic
effects. The shower streams are typically quite narrow with some places
catching a lot while others not so far away get nothing. The devil is
in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high
impact' weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially
the west), where there's no warning, than there is in places like
Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll where there is a warning. After all, the
A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield goes up to 515m over very exposed
moorland and is totally open to the west.

I may well be proved wrong :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

It seems a bit strange to me too.
Just Scotland and coastal regions exposed to the north wind to get snow
Thurs. Fri.

But not high ground like the Pennines/Peak distict?

Len
In sheltered Wembury





Dartmoor will get a good covering, it always does in NW'lies. Especially with
a jet streak intensifying activity. And yes Norman the Peaks are going to get
plastered, possibly drifting too. Wake up UKMO.

Will


The following is the Mountain Weather Forecast for the Peak District for
Thursday issued at 1617 this afternoon. Despite this, the Peak District is
still not in the warning area. Does this mean that conditions in the likes of
Southport, which is in the warning area, will be worse than those forecast for
the Peak District? What does it take to be 'high impact' weather?

------------------------------------------------------

Thursday 12th January

Windy and bitterly cold at all elevations with clear spells and further snow
showers, some heavy and perhaps prolonged with several centimetres
accumulating. During the evening a trough may give more enhanced showery
conditions. Severe wind chill can be expected at times with strong westerly
winds. Mountain paths will become icy. Widespread hard frost overnight.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:50:39 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Surprised to see that in this part of the world the limit of the severe weather
warning just issued for Wed/Thu comes no further east than about
Bolton/Warrington/Chester. Given the expected very strong W-WNW wind I would
expect that shower streams coming off Liverpool Bay would extend well into the
Peak District, perhaps even intensified by orographic effects. The shower
streams are typically quite narrow with some places catching a lot while others
not so far away get nothing. The devil is in the detail of the wind direction.

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west), where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

I may well be proved wrong :-)

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org
@TideswellWeathr

Derbyshire peaks are in the firing line in Situation like this. Classic sub 528DM air and strong winds will drive the showers East of the Pennines too!

For my money, given the evolving situation, there's more risk of 'high
impact'
weather over the high ground of the Peak District (especially the west),
where
there's no warning, than there is in places like Southport, Hoylake and
Rhyll
where there is a warning. After all, the A537 road from Buxton to
Macclesfield
goes up to 515m over very exposed moorland and is totally open to the west.

We should miss most of it Norman that's according to Shefali our local
weather girl on Midlands Today.
As regards snow, she said low ground will get nothing and high ground may
get a few wintry showers.
That's the up and coming cold snap done and dusted then

Wonder if we will end up with another Winter like 88/89, if my memory serves
me well I don't think we had any snow until around the 16th February. I do
remember a fall of around 10cms or so on the 24th before it turned very mild
again at the start of March. I know we had a snow free December 88 and
January 89 (the only Jan snowless in my records).


Graham