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Rereading this week's Sunday Telegraph I came across this fascinating snippet:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

Surely a typo? Googling it reveals it's a high Alpine valley ski resort (1191m.) Isn't it impossible for a Foehn to bring such a high temp. so late in the year-or at any other time of year for that matter?
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On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 6:12:27 PM UTC, haaark wrote:
Rereading this week's Sunday Telegraph I came across this fascinating snippet:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

Surely a typo? Googling it reveals it's a high Alpine valley ski resort (1191m.) Isn't it impossible for a Foehn to bring such a high temp. so late in the year-or at any other time of year for that matter?
Thoughts please.


It must be a typo - there has been a cold spell in Austria in that period.
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Rereading this week's Sunday Telegraph I came across this fascinating snippet:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


I blinked when I saw that too.


Surely a typo? Googling it reveals it's a high Alpine valley ski resort
(1191m.) Isn't it impossible for a Foehn to bring such a high temp. so
late in the year-or at any other time of year for that matter?
Thoughts please.


Certainly at this time of year it seems to me that it must be beyond
what's possible.
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Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.



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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:32:39 UTC, haaark wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.


All but one or two. But I am being nasty again.

Colin had better not turn his back on any wet sheep. If he does he may get savaged.
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On Thursday, 22 December 2016 00:19:55 UTC, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 21:32:39 UTC, haaark wrote:
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

12.3°C according to OGIMET http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.


All but one or two. But I am being nasty again.

Colin had better not turn his back on any wet sheep. If he does he may get savaged.


Hang on...
Dec 11th. I have something out on the 9th that may account for it. Or not as the case may be.
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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...ecoded=yes&nda
ys=2&ano=2016&mes=12&day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called
Joe Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a
new wind only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all!
The sad demise of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.


Believe me, the guy currently filling that role on the Sunday edition,
called Peter Stanford, is far worse. The trouble is that Shute and
Stanford are journalists who have been asked to cover a subject that
they know nothing about and probably aren't even particularly interested
in. I've read articles by them on subjects that they actually know
something about that have been fine.

I don't suppose they even see anything from the weather section in
advance other than their own columns. The rest of it is probably put
together by someone from Accuweather (who supply the Telegraph's
forecasts nowadays).
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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

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Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.

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On Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:01:56 UTC, wrote:
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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.


12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels


Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

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Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.


Aren't they all?
How did they handle threats of strikes at the Met Oafish?

If you actually take a sample of any newspaper, discard the ads and pictures and the news items when they become opinions the amount of data in them is surprisingly low.

As for the standard bearer for the rest of us too lazy to look further than the BBC, there's lots of examples of their propaganda all over everything they touch just look up: "youtube bbc building #7"; it is all fake news.


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