On Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:05:27 UTC, JohnD wrote:
"Brian Wakem" wrote in message ...

Or maybe nobody is that silly?

Maybe only me, who can't help thinking that a megafoehn must be really,
really loud.

It certainly would be for us folk from Hull, where virtually every winter we get sner on the rerd.

"haaark" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

====

Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

On 22/12/16 18:02, Brian Wakem wrote:
haaark wrote:

Rereading this week's Sunday Telegraph I came across this fascinating
snippet:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

Surely a typo? Googling it reveals it's a high Alpine valley ski resort
(1191m.) Isn't it impossible for a Foehn to bring such a high temp. so
late in the year-or at any other time of year for that matter? Thoughts
please.


Possibly 29F incorrectly taken as C, converted to F (84.2), rounded down
(84) and converted back to C to 1 decimal place (28.9).

Or maybe nobody is that silly?


Reminds me of the time about fifty years ago when USA weather stations
switched from reporting DegF to DegC. We got into a terrible mix with
the two American Ice Islands T3 and Arlis-2. I think they must have
still been using F thermometers but converting to C. Sometimes.

We'd get the figures in the Ice Unit at Bracknell and log them for the
purpose of calculating degree days. Trouble was, we'd have to make an
educated guess as to whether they were reporting in C or F. With
negative temperatures, that can be a bit tricky.

Well, as you can guess, the final recorded temperatures were either
assumed to be F and converted to C when they were actually originally in
C, or they were assumed to be C and left alone when they were really in
F. My boss tasked me with going through the German DWRs but I soon
realised their figures were in just as big a mess as ours but not
necessarily the same mess. Can't remember what my boss had wanted but it
involved plotting the results and drawing a straight line through them.
I said it wouldn't work and when I showed him it hadn't he said I had to
go back through the DWRs and do it all again because I must have done it
wrong. At this point I told him I wouldn't and we had a frank and fair
exchange of views which ended with me storming out of his office and
slamming the door on him.

Never solved the problem of the corrupt temperatures but at least I had
less trouble with my boss afterwards.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. [Retd meteorologist/programmer]
Web-site: http://www.scarlet-jade.com/
There are more fools than knaves in the world, else the knaves would
not have enough to live upon. [Samuel Butler]

On Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:01:56 UTC, wrote:
"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

====

Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.

Aren't they all?
How did they handle threats of strikes at the Met Oafish?

If you actually take a sample of any newspaper, discard the ads and pictures and the news items when they become opinions the amount of data in them is surprisingly low.

As for the standard bearer for the rest of us too lazy to look further than the BBC, there's lots of examples of their propaganda all over everything they touch just look up: "youtube bbc building #7"; it is all fake news.

On Thursday, 22 December 2016 21:43:33 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 22/12/16 18:02, Brian Wakem wrote:
haaark wrote:

Rereading this week's Sunday Telegraph I came across this fascinating
snippet:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

Surely a typo? Googling it reveals it's a high Alpine valley ski resort
(1191m.) Isn't it impossible for a Foehn to bring such a high temp. so
late in the year-or at any other time of year for that matter? Thoughts
please.


Possibly 29F incorrectly taken as C, converted to F (84.2), rounded down
(84) and converted back to C to 1 decimal place (28.9).

Or maybe nobody is that silly?


Reminds me of the time about fifty years ago when USA weather stations
switched from reporting DegF to DegC. We got into a terrible mix with
the two American Ice Islands T3 and Arlis-2. I think they must have
still been using F thermometers but converting to C. Sometimes.

We'd get the figures in the Ice Unit at Bracknell and log them for the
purpose of calculating degree days. Trouble was, we'd have to make an
educated guess as to whether they were reporting in C or F. With
negative temperatures, that can be a bit tricky.

Well, as you can guess, the final recorded temperatures were either
assumed to be F and converted to C when they were actually originally in
C, or they were assumed to be C and left alone when they were really in
F. My boss tasked me with going through the German DWRs but I soon
realised their figures were in just as big a mess as ours but not
necessarily the same mess. Can't remember what my boss had wanted but it
involved plotting the results and drawing a straight line through them.
I said it wouldn't work and when I showed him it hadn't he said I had to
go back through the DWRs and do it all again because I must have done it
wrong. At this point I told him I wouldn't and we had a frank and fair
exchange of views which ended with me storming out of his office and
slamming the door on him.

Never solved the problem of the corrupt temperatures but at least I had
less trouble with my boss afterwards.

While you were boiling you should have popped into Woollies and got an Etchasketch and served something up on that. I hear a BSOD on one of them is revealing.

On Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:01:56 UTC, wrote:
"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

====

Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Who on earth cares if you don't? What an odd contribution. Back to wherever you've gone for you. Until there's a sniff of snow. Then you won't be able to resist being smug about your particularly excellent driving skills and hardiness.

Oops forgot. I'm in the kill file! Ah! Hang on........'Hello' to almost everyone else on UKSW.

PS. Hope you sent poor old Phil Eden a card, Will.

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:05:26 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:01:56 UTC, wrote:
"haaark" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, 21 December 2016 20:58:57 UTC, Colin Youngs wrote:
Op woensdag 21 december 2016 19:12:27 UTC+1 schreef haaark:

Warmest place in Europe: Mallnitz Austria 28.9C (84F) Dec 11th.

12.3°C according to OGIMET
http://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynre...day=11&hora=18

Colin Youngs
Brussels

Thanks Colin. Philip Eden would never have let something like that slip
through. The Telegraph's current weather ""expert"", a fellow called Joe
Shute, reported in Saturday's Telegraph that he had discovered a new wind
only that week. It was called the Foehn. Heaven help us all! The sad demise
of a once quality broadsheet. Any of us could do better.

====

Who cares, I don't!
It's a crappy newspaper.

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

Who on earth cares if you don't? What an odd contribution. Back to wherever you've gone for you. Until there's a sniff of snow. Then you won't be able to resist being smug about your particularly excellent driving skills and hardiness.

Oops forgot. I'm in the kill file! Ah! Hang on........'Hello' to almost everyone else on UKSW.

PS. Hope you sent poor old Phil Eden a card, Will.

A quick reply on the post to those of you who have remained on here and not taken the plunge into Weather and Climate.
Would you believe that Dawlish, or Paul, or pjg or whatever he wants to call himself, has actually been tamed, after a yellow card for his first post!!!!
Yes, on Weather and Climate he would not dare make a post like the above, which is another appalling response and why he would want to bring Philip into it, I have no idea. (Not Phil, it's so disrespectful).