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Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ...
Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate --------------------------------------------- Yes, exactly as I posted in the ' Your invitation to join' thread here yesterday! |
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On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 10:01:05 AM UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
"Eskimo Will" wrote in message ... Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate --------------------------------------------- Yes, exactly as I posted in the ' Your invitation to join' thread here yesterday! And, oddly, the link that Bruce himself put into this post: https://groups.google.com/forum/?nom...er/QZ0ueWl567k *)) |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 09:56:15 UTC+1, wrote:
Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- I linked it in my Google groups yesterday. Don't worry I don't intend to join , you lot need a break from the likes of me. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 11:13:56 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
Gerchya. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 11:13:56 UTC+1, Dawlish wrote:
Bugger off fool |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 12:40:00 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 09:56:15 UTC+1, wrote: Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- I linked it in my Google groups yesterday. Don't worry I don't intend to join , you lot need a break from the likes of me. Lawrence Thanks for the reassurance. I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 14:20:58 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 12:40:00 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 09:56:15 UTC+1, wrote: Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- I linked it in my Google groups yesterday. Don't worry I don't intend to join , you lot need a break from the likes of me. Lawrence Thanks for the reassurance. I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. I know when I'm not wanted, I do have a smidgeon of pride you know. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 14:20:58 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 12:40:00 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 09:56:15 UTC+1, wrote: Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- I linked it in my Google groups yesterday. Don't worry I don't intend to join , you lot need a break from the likes of me. Lawrence Thanks for the reassurance. I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. Anyway why are you back here when you found this group so unpalatable that you had to start another with you in charge to ensure the riff raff don't get back in, yet here you are talking to what you see as the riff raff. Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. |
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
... Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. I think it's called a free world. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:16:49 UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. |
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"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message
... I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:55:54 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:16:49 UTC+1, JohnD wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. I came back to see if I could persuade anyone else who was swithering about making a change or even cross posting to see if they liked a forum rather than a newsgroup. I've been reading and posting to this blog for the last 20 years and I don't need your permission to post to it. I am not gloating in the slightest, this newsgroup has gone to the dogs over the last 10 years hijacked by a small group of people, and I am sad to see its demise, like so many other subscribers to it are either past or present. |
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Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate I will look at it from time to time, but I don't think I'll be contributing. Not that I ever did, much, really, so you aren't going to miss me. Anne |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:56:35 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:55:54 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:16:49 UTC+1, JohnD wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. I came back to see if I could persuade anyone else who was swithering about making a change or even cross posting to see if they liked a forum rather than a newsgroup. I've been reading and posting to this blog for the last 20 years and I don't need your permission to post to it. I am not gloating in the slightest, this newsgroup has gone to the dogs over the last 10 years hijacked by a small group of people, and I am sad to see its demise, like so many other subscribers to it are either past or present. No one said you needed permission did they. I see you're back again though. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:31:11 UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. |
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On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 2:20:58 PM UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 12:40:00 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 09:56:15 UTC+1, wrote: Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- I linked it in my Google groups yesterday. Don't worry I don't intend to join , you lot need a break from the likes of me. Lawrence Thanks for the reassurance. I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. |
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"Anne B" wrote in message ... Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate I will look at it from time to time, but I don't think I'll be contributing. Not that I ever did, much, really, so you aren't going to miss me. Well we will miss you Anne! I cannot be involved either mainly coz I'm on the ukweatherworld severe weather warnings team! But good luck to Bruce. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 17:19:37 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:31:11 UTC+1, JohnD wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland.. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 15:16:49 UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message ... Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. I think it's called a free world. And America has honest elections just like they do in Asia. And Tony Blair is going to face a possible prison sentence due to the finding of the Chilcot enquiry. And all the lads who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan will live happily ever after, in heaven so everyone is much better off all round. |
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Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate I will look at it from time to time, but I don't think I'll be contributing. Not that I ever did, much, really, so you aren't going to miss me. Well we will miss you Anne! I cannot be involved either mainly coz I'm on the ukweatherworld severe weather warnings team! But good luck to Bruce. Will Kind of you to say so, Will. If I can manage to find my way through Google's registration process I might sign up, but I am not a fan af Google Gropes. Anne |
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"Len Wood" wrote in message ... On Monday, 4 July 2016 17:19:37 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:31:11 UTC+1, JohnD wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLONK Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:33:18 UTC+1, Anne B wrote:
Bruce said you couldn't link directly, well here it is https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...therandclimate I will look at it from time to time, but I don't think I'll be contributing. Not that I ever did, much, really, so you aren't going to miss me. Well we will miss you Anne! I cannot be involved either mainly coz I'm on the ukweatherworld severe weather warnings team! But good luck to Bruce. Will Kind of you to say so, Will. If I can manage to find my way through Google's registration process I might sign up, but I am not a fan af Google Gropes. Anne "not a fan of Google Gropes" That's a bit 'out there' Anne. So what sort of gropes are you a fan of-as you raised the issue. |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 19:44:26 UTC+1, Len Wood wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 17:19:37 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: On Monday, 4 July 2016 16:31:11 UTC+1, JohnD wrote: "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical.. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look Len I was nervous about which way to vote but in the end I cannot support a whole hierarchy of corrupt over-paid faceless politicians and as if we don't have enough here. I also feel the EEU is sinister and is filled by totally unelected officials and many or nearly all with a very left in not communist background and they love spending other peoples money. Farage was right when he told them all last week that probably none of them had a proper job in their lives. Now if he said that about the Tory party most here would be in orgasmic over drive. The secret of understanding fellow humans in life is not on what they say but what they do. I would also suggest the UK was a valued member as it put in more than it took. How framer are incredibly efficient but have had to rein back for inefficient French agriculture. I would further note that EEC directives for AGW emission and H&S are applied more here in the UK because we have more money and an eager army of people who frankly haven't a clue but get bloody well paid to apply it. An old partner of mine who can't wire a plug has just been taken on by Tower Hamlets. I remember being in Spain in 1994 and how their electrical standards were nowhere near ours. Finally. I've just turned of Brian Cox as I can't stand him . He was explaining the strength gained from have a spherical shape and showing the oddest tradition I've ever seen in Spain I believe. This competition for those that didn't see the program consist of building a human tower easily up to fifty feet and beyond and do you know what they top this human skyscraper with kids almost toddlers and we see the proud parents watching their children risking death and injury which Im sure happens, cheering them on. Imagine that in this country , I can't, |
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On 04/07/2016 21:14, Eskimo Will wrote:
"Len Wood" wrote in message What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury -------------------------------------------------------- PLONK You *idiot*. Even Len Wood now. fancy ending up like Weatherlawyer who mainly talks to himself? Because that's the way you're heading. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Snow videos: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg |
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On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:14:43 UTC+1,
"Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical.. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLONK Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- LOL You're not a plonker are you Will? Don't be so hard on yourself. Len ------------------------------------------------- |
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"Len Wood" wrote in message
... You're not a plonker are you Will? Don't be so hard on yourself. I suspect it's a case of pseudo-plonkitis. If Will really has been using Windows Live Mail as a news reader then AFAIK it doesn't have a KF facility. (Ignore thread yes, but not KF individuals) Of course there may be different versions of WLM etc... |
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"Len Wood" wrote in message ... On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:14:43 UTC+1, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote in message I think it's called a free world. True it is that but I would also categorise it as a tad hypocritical. Absolute nonsense. Many people here monitor and contribute to multiple weather groups/forums. What's wrong with that? Doesn't bother me, nor most here I suspect, in the slightest. People voted for brexit so they can't decide to chop and change once the vote has taken place. He either came back to gloat or he wants my friendship. That's got to win some sort of prize for non-sequitur of the year. But since you raise the Brexit point, and as an aside, there does indeed look like being every possibility of 'chop and change'. A fraudulent Leave campaign, a wafer-thing majority, many Leave voters confused about the reality of their vote ('I didn't really mean it like that'!) and, in any event, it looks possible that it may be illegal for the government to trigger Article 50 without the support of a Commons vote - High Court action pending, potentially. Majority vote by the people and it would have been even stronger for if it hadn't been for the SNP. However there were plenty of rational Scots who voted against independence and plenty on voted to leave. I had to laugh at the hypocritical carping of the SNP who get to vote in parliament and Hollywood or is it Holyrood-who anyway, cares just a load of fictitious 'Brave Hearts' the lot of them. Anyhow as they get to vote in their own parliament and then in ours even though we don't vote in theirs, the William Wallace's were still moaning and crying they were now out of Europe against their will. It however shows the sheer hypocrisy of todays politicians especially the SNP because as Cameron pointed out to them that if they had have won their independence vote they would have been out of Europe anyway. These people are despicable. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLONK You're not a plonker are you Will? Don't be so hard on yourself. Len ------------------------------------------------- Ha ha glad you saw the joke Len, I bet someone else (who is kill-filed) didn't! Cloud breaking now in Haytor. Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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writes "Len Wood" wrote in message ... You're not a plonker are you Will? Don't be so hard on yourself. I suspect it's a case of pseudo-plonkitis. If Will really has been using Windows Live Mail as a news reader then AFAIK it doesn't have a KF facility. (Ignore thread yes, but not KF individuals) Of course there may be different versions of WLM etc... Going by Will's headers, he's using version 6. -- John Hall "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin" attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp, a former director of the Bank of England |
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On 05/07/2016 09:53, Eskimo Will wrote:
Ha ha glad you saw the joke Len, I bet someone else (who is kill-filed) didn't! Honestly, what is the bloody point in killfiling me if you're just going to peek at what I say anyway?? -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Snow videos: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg |
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Going by Will's headers, he's using version 6. Well who knows what features that antique version of Windows Mail might possess. WLM is currently at v16 and still doesn't, as far as I can see, have a KF facility. (Yes, I know, WLM is not a 'real' news client. But, personally, for the minimal value that newsgroups are in general these days, I'm not prepared to have yet another application open on my desktop, getting in the way etc - it would add precious little, have its own learning curve and be one more encumbrance.) |
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What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spot on as ever Len. I'm afraid there are other nasty things creeping into some arguments along the lines that education is bad as it leads to the elitist liberal middle classes. I've generally found they are the ones doing the most to try and raise standards for the poorer in society than your average business led UKIP and Tory person. Wasn't it a similar anti-professional/expert/educated attitude that led to the burning of books, killing musicians, artists etc by the Khmer Rouge and Maoist China? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message ... What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spot on as ever Len. I'm afraid there are other nasty things creeping into some arguments along the lines that education is bad as it leads to the elitist liberal middle classes. I've generally found they are the ones doing the most to try and raise standards for the poorer in society than your average business led UKIP and Tory person. Wasn't it a similar anti-professional/expert/educated attitude that led to the burning of books, killing musicians, artists etc by the Khmer Rouge and Maoist China? Just because you cannot post such stuff on Bruce's site Dave there is no need to trash a thread on here. PLEASE KEEP ON TOPIC or go away! Will -- " Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect believes that it was created in 1910 " http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:03:46 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system.. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spot on as ever Len. I'm afraid there are other nasty things creeping into some arguments along the lines that education is bad as it leads to the elitist liberal middle classes. I've generally found they are the ones doing the most to try and raise standards for the poorer in society than your average business led UKIP and Tory person. Wasn't it a similar anti-professional/expert/educated attitude that led to the burning of books, killing musicians, artists etc by the Khmer Rouge and Maoist China? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus No education is good if the elitist middle class left stop putting their spin on it. I took my son out for his birthday meal last night and there with his partner and my daughter partner Brexit came up . all of them voted remain as they are white middle class Londoners, but my daughter as a history teacher was very undecided as the EEC and the way its developed was very wrong indeed with decisions being made for the UK and all sovereignty taken away. Britain was a very wealthy member of the EEC and we were needed far more than we needed . them I'll keep this short and mention Farage. When Farage vowed to try and end the accepted corrupted un representational nature of the EEC immigration wasn't even on the cards then. Its only become an issue in recent times and then exacerbated by dysfunctional Arab countries with populations devised of two factions of Islam who want to kill each other. So for people to say Farage started all of this because he's a racist (over used word bomb to end all conversation)they are lying as immigration was not such a hot potato when he joined UKIP which initially had been set up by Kilroy-Silk. Let me ask you though Dave and anyone. The net migration for 2015 was almost half a million people. They don't all work and all will be immediately in receipt of health, housing and education whether they contribute or not. As for probably the best of the bunch of immigrants the Poles . Many of those never paid tax as they worked in the construction industry, granted some worked in care as agency of direct labour where they would then be PAYE but even being in the UK two years and having used the GP or NHS plus housing help and education. Any taxes paid plus NI would nowhere near meet the costs of a health issue on the NHS or education which is I believe around 6 grand a year to educate per child. None of it adds up. My daughter tells me that the photo copying budget at her very prestigious state run but highly sought after school is £18 per month where she has to pay out of her own pocket on many an occasion. So let me ask you as you obviously want to put your OT side in a newsgroup you left because it was too OT. How many people can we take in the UK and really we all know we men England . half a million per year, so by 2020 it would have been another two million. Do you think that is sustainable without you state pension being greatly reduced to pay for it or higher VAT which by the way the EEC introduced. I await your answer. |
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Between October 1940 and 1973 the UK had a consumption tax called*Purchase Tax, which was levied at different rates depending on goods' luxuriousness.[5]*Purchase Tax was applied to the wholesale price, initially at a rate of 331⁄3%. This was doubled in April 1942 to 662⁄3%, and further increased in April 1943 to a rate of 100%, before reverting in April 1946 to 331⁄3% again. Unlike VAT, Purchase Tax was applied at the point of manufacture and distribution, not at the point of sale. The rate of Purchase Tax at the start of 1973, when it gave way to VAT, was 25%.
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 19:04:33 UTC+1, Desperate Dan wrote:
Between October 1940 and 1973 the UK had a consumption tax called*Purchase Tax, which was levied at different rates depending on goods' luxuriousness.[5]*Purchase Tax was applied to the wholesale price, initially at a rate of 331⁄3%. This was doubled in April 1942 to 662⁄3%, and further increased in April 1943 to a rate of 100%, before reverting in April 1946 to 331⁄3% again. Unlike VAT, Purchase Tax was applied at the point of manufacture and distribution, not at the point of sale. The rate of Purchase Tax at the start of 1973, when it gave way to VAT, was 25%. Well you had me on purchase tax which was a war time tax based on shortage of resources which were deemed a luxury Now of course under the VAT more than luxuries are taxed But I have say I fail to see the point you are making? Is it that there was a purchase tax before VAT? If so that's ridiculous as Purchase tax was only luxury goods would you consider cloths luxury goods . I mean do you consider baby's prams and children's car seats luxury goods. I'm not sure with children's cars seats but I thought they were a legal requirement. Rates below from wiki three rates standard 20% reduced 5% and zero There are currently three rates of VAT: standard (20%), reduced (5%) and zero (0%).[3] In addition some goods and services are exempt from VAT or outside the VAT system.[3] The following are the rates applicable to some common goods and services:[36] Standard rated Alcoholic drinks Biscuits (chocolate covered only) Bottled water (inc. mineral water) Calendars & diaries Carbonated (fizzy) drinks CDs, DVDs & tapes Cereal bars Chocolate Clothes & footwear (not for children under 14) Confectionery/sweets Delivery charges (postage & packaging) Electrical goods Electricity, gas, heating oil & solid fuel (business) Food & drinks supplied for consumption on the premises (at restaurants, cafes etc) Hot take-away food & drinks (inc. burgers, hot dogs, toasted sandwiches) Ice cream Fruit juice & other cold drinks (not milk) Nuts (shelled, roasted/salted) Postal services (Royal Mail/other licensed operators) Potato crisps Prams & pushchairs Road fuel (petrol/diesel) Salt (non-culinary) Stationery Taxi fares Tolls for bridges, tunnels & roads (privately operated) Water (industrial) Reduced rated Children's car seats Electricity, gas, heating oil & solid fuel (domestic/residential/charity non-business) Energy saving materials (permanently installed in residential/charity premises) Maternity pads Mobility aids for the elderly Sanitary protection products Smoking cessation products Zero rated Aircraft (sale/charter) Bicycle & motorcycle helmets Biscuits (not chocolate covered) Books, maps & charts (not ebooks) Bread, rolls, baps & pita bread Brochures, leaflets & pamphlets Building services for disabled people Cakes (including Chocolate teacake, Jaffa Cakes) Canned & frozen food (not ice cream) Cereals Chilled/frozen ready meals, convenience foods Clothes & footwear (for children under 14 only) Construction & sale of new domestic buildings Cooking oil Donated goods sold at charity shops Eggs Equipment for disabled people (inc. blind/partially sighted) Fish (inc. live fish) Fruit & vegetables Live animals for human consumption Meat & poultry Milk, butter, cheese Newspapers, magazines & journals Nuts & pulses (raw for human consumption) Prescription medicine Protective boots & helmets (industrial) Public transport fares (bus, train & tube) Salt (culinary) Sandwiches (cold) Sewerage (domestic & industrial) Shipbuilding (15 tonnes or over) Tea, coffee & cocoa Transport in a vehicle, boat or aircraft (not fewer than ten passengers) Water (household) Exempt Antiques, works of art or similar Burial or cremation (human) Commercial land & buildings (selling/leasing/letting) Cultural events operated by public bodies (museums, art exhibitions, zoos & performances) Education, vocational training Financial services (money transactions, loans/credits, savings/deposits, shares/bonds) Funeral plan insurance Gambling (betting, gaming, bingo, lottery) Health services (doctors, dentists, opticians, pharmacists & other health professionals) Insurance Medical treatment & care Membership subscriptions Postage stamps Sports activities & physical education TV licence Outside Goods & services sold outside the EU Goods & services supplied by unregistered supplier Statutory fees & services (MOT testing, congestion charge etc) Tolls for bridges, tunnels and roads (operated by public authorities) Voluntary donations t |
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On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:12:58 UTC+12, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. Anyway why are you back here when you found this group so unpalatable that you had to start another with you in charge to ensure the riff raff don't get back in, yet here you are talking to what you see as the riff raff. Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. You are deeply unpalatable - not just as an embittered curmudgeon, but as a cynical redistributor of lies manufactured by self-interested pressure groups who don't give a damn about the fate of the environment. WeatherL, on the other hand, is simply a raving lunatic with a compulsion to spout endless twaddle. |
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On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:07:49 UTC+1, RW wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:12:58 UTC+12, Lawrence Jenkins wrote: I imagine that you are now doomed to remain here, locked in a titanic struggle of good over evil, in a battle with the dark forces with the likes of Dawlish and Weatherlawyer for the rest of eternity. Bruce. Anyway why are you back here when you found this group so unpalatable that you had to start another with you in charge to ensure the riff raff don't get back in, yet here you are talking to what you see as the riff raff. Talk about wanting yer cake and eat it. You are deeply unpalatable - not just as an embittered curmudgeon, but as a cynical redistributor of lies manufactured by self-interested pressure groups who don't give a damn about the fate of the environment. WeatherL, on the other hand, is simply a raving lunatic with a compulsion to spout endless twaddle. Shut up you lunatic .Why do have the monopoly on caring about the environment what stupid statements come out of your vegetarian gob. You are a New Zealand lefty whose post makes no sense to me bar your stupid statement |
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On 06/07/2016 14:03, Dave Cornwell wrote:
What you talking about? It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in Scotland. Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system. O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts. The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why? Len Wembury -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spot on as ever Len. I'm afraid there are other nasty things creeping into some arguments along the lines that education is bad as it leads to the elitist liberal middle classes. I've generally found they are the ones doing the most to try and raise standards for the poorer in society than your average business led UKIP and Tory person. Wasn't it a similar anti-professional/expert/educated attitude that led to the burning of books, killing musicians, artists etc by the Khmer Rouge and Maoist China? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus The working class as a long history of self education, it was a Christian working class self taught man that set up the workers’ education association at the start of the 20th century. The middle class liberals are self-congratulatory, they think they are above anyone else because they do good works. Their good works are mostly socialist bull****. A major split in the labour party happened in the 1980's; the working class didn’t want to be politically correct stooges for the middle class liberals, so the middle class liberals courted the middle class conservatives with new labour. New labour was a wholly middle class party, espousing free market capitalist economic polices for the middle class conservatives, but also espousing politically correct social policies directed towards immigrants and gays for the middle class liberals. The final nail in the coffin for the labour party happened in the 1990's, with the rout of working class labour MPs being deselected to be replaced with middle class liberal Mps. New labour used the working class as voter fodder, As Mendelson said, “The working class have no where else to go”. The cat was let out of the bag with Gordon Brown PM, said that bigoted woman about Gillian Duffy. The modern labour party see the working class as bigoted people, be it racist, sexist or homophobic. This is why the labour party as become a middle class liberal protest party. The working class have become disenfranchised from the political system, but it doesn’t matter to the middle class, because the middle class liberals see the working class as bigots, while the middle class conservatives see the working class as chavs and yobs. Jonathan Rose put it as, “The gradual shift in the labour party ‘from a working-class self-educated leadership to a middle-class university-educated leadership brought with it a shift from economic protest to cultural protest” |
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I am not a vegetarian, lunkhead. I am politically unaligned but have zero respect for your kind of politics. And I haven't forgotten the typical example of your offensiveness when your response to a polite email explaining a climate point was unfettered abuse. Get off the stage and let others with saner attitudes get more attention.
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