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There's quite a good article in the January issue of 'Physics Today' comparing
the ECMWF, GFS and UKMO numerical models. 'Physics Today' is free on-line to
members of the Royal Met Soc.

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On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 9:48:27 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
There's quite a good article in the January issue of 'Physics Today' comparing
the ECMWF, GFS and UKMO numerical models. 'Physics Today' is free on-line to
members of the Royal Met Soc.

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Thanks for that heads up Norman.
The article is he

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip...1063/PT.3.3046

I suspect it is open to more than just RMetSoc members.

Cheers, Alastair.
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Alastair writes
On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 9:48:27 AM UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
There's quite a good article in the January issue of 'Physics Today'
comparing
the ECMWF, GFS and UKMO numerical models. 'Physics Today' is free on-line to
members of the Royal Met Soc.


Thanks for that heads up Norman.


And thanks from me.

The article is he

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip.../article/69/1/
10.1063/PT.3.3046


Thanks for the link.


I suspect it is open to more than just RMetSoc members.


Yes, I was able to read it, and I'm not a RMetSoc member. It's a very
interesting article, and in spite of the source you don't need to know
any physics to understand it.
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
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On 06/01/2016 09:48, Norman Lynagh wrote:
There's quite a good article in the January issue of 'Physics Today' comparing
the ECMWF, GFS and UKMO numerical models. 'Physics Today' is free on-line to
members of the Royal Met Soc.

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Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org


A talk+Q&A last month by a Dr Joel Hirschi, of the National Oceanography
Centre, Southampton is relevant to this.
Firstly he revealed that the NOC world ocean model will be tied to the
MetO model , for starting conditions- no account is made of the oceans
as the model stands apparently.
Second relating to "barbecue summers" etc, seasonal forecasting, they've
found a 5 month advance correlation between the MOC in the Atlantic and
generalised weather trends for the UK.
In relation to the paper on quasi-resonant locking of the jetstream, by
Petoukhov et al. A coupling between MOC/El Nino to the associated
jetstreams and so a mechanism for transfer of El Nino status to the
Atlantic.
I've not transcribed the relevant bits yet of the talk, start of it, for
the moment, on the end of this file
http://www.diverse.4mg.com/scicaf2.htm
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On 07/01/2016 12:43, N_Cook wrote:
On 06/01/2016 09:48, Norman Lynagh wrote:
There's quite a good article in the January issue of 'Physics Today'
comparing
the ECMWF, GFS and UKMO numerical models. 'Physics Today' is free
on-line to
members of the Royal Met Soc.

--
Norman Lynagh
Tideswell, Derbyshire
303m a.s.l.
http://peakdistrictweather.org


A talk+Q&A last month by a Dr Joel Hirschi, of the National Oceanography
Centre, Southampton is relevant to this.
Firstly he revealed that the NOC world ocean model will be tied to the
MetO model , for starting conditions- no account is made of the oceans
as the model stands apparently.
Second relating to "barbecue summers" etc, seasonal forecasting, they've
found a 5 month advance correlation between the MOC in the Atlantic and
generalised weather trends for the UK.
In relation to the paper on quasi-resonant locking of the jetstream, by
Petoukhov et al. A coupling between MOC/El Nino to the associated
jetstreams and so a mechanism for transfer of El Nino status to the
Atlantic.
I've not transcribed the relevant bits yet of the talk, start of it, for
the moment, on the end of this file
http://www.diverse.4mg.com/scicaf2.htm



Their pdf paper on five month advance correlation between MOC trend and
UK weather trend is surprisingly on the Springer site as
horrendous sprawling URL, so
http://tinyurl.com/jfst6x4


"Potential for seasonal prediction of Atlantic sea surface
temperatures using the RAPID array at 26 deg N"



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