On 07/08/14 16:13, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Thursday, 7 August 2014 15:01:32 UTC+1, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Thursday, 7 August 2014 13:12:12 UTC+1, Metman2012 wrote: On
07/08/2014 11:07, Dan Din wrote: On 07/08/14 00:57, Tudor Hughes
wrote: "Lol" is Welsh for stupid, Nonsense. Twp is
welsh for stupid. It would seem that twp (pronounced toop?) is
stupid. Lol is nonsense, rubbish (in teh sense of claptrap rather
than garbage). So Twdwr is sort of right in this context. Or should
that be Tewdwr? It's always confusing when surnames are used as
forenames - oh, both of mine are derived from surnames! The Welsh
form of Tudor is Tudur, pronounced approximately Tidd-eerh. But my
name uses the English pronunciation. It's the equivalent of
Theodore, or, in Slavic countries, Todor. My father and his family,
whose first language was Welsh, would often chuck in an English
word or phrase, not because there wasn't a Welsh word, but just
because. It's rather more fluid and less nationalistic than you
might imagine. You may know this anyway. At home (in England) we
would use a few Welsh words and sometimes I wasn't even sure which
language it was. My own speech is RP plus a certain amount of
Croydon. You're right about "twp" and "lol" BTW. Tudor Hughes,
Warlingham, Surrey.

Tudor if I'm right wasn't the Tudor Dynasty started by Henry V's
widowed wife Elaine? Having a fling with a high ranking Welshman with
surname Tudor whilst she retired to Leeds Castle in Kent.

I'm at work at the moment but I'll check my facts when I get home.


Wasn't the first Tudor King, Henry VII?

"Henry VII was born at Pembroke Castle on 28 January 1457 to the
13-year-old Margaret Beaufort, Countess of Richmond. His father, Edmund
Tudor, 1st Earl of Richmond, died three months before his birth."

"Henry's paternal grandfather, Owen Tudor, originally from the Tudors of
Penmynydd, Isle of Anglesey in Wales, had been a page in the court of
Henry V"