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GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating
previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. |
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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:28:36 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. Quite remarkable how the world is warming up and certainly the theory that 'extremes' will be the outcome of the warming, appears to be true. You just wonder 'what, where and when' will be the next extreme. One thing I do ask myself, is how accurate is the earlier data and how is it derrived 'globally' ? Keith (Southend) htp://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad" |
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On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year. The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf (Slide 25, especially). |
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![]() "Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:28:36 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. Quite remarkable how the world is warming up and certainly the theory that 'extremes' will be the outcome of the warming, appears to be true. You just wonder 'what, where and when' will be the next extreme. One thing I do ask myself, is how accurate is the earlier data and how is it derrived 'globally' ? Probably more accurate than you imagine :-) The sea surface temperatures have been corrected for the change in altitude as the buckets were tranported onto the decks of the ships where the temperature were measured with mercury thermometers! And, of course, land temperatures have been corrected for the Heat Island effect where appropriate. But these are the only temperatures of the past we have, so whether they are too low or too high, any changes have to be estimated based on them. Cheers, Alastair. |
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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year. The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf (Slide 25, especially). Really? Go figure http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565 |
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You don't understand the graph you have linked to.
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On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:
On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote: On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year. The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf (Slide 25, especially). Really? Go figure http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565 What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything? |
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On Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:17:39 UTC, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said: On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote: On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year. The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf (Slide 25, especially). Really? Go figure http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565 What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything? Its got nothing to do with any of our weather and climate, you are exactly right. Doh silly me. |
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On Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:08:36 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:17:39 UTC, yttiw wrote: On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said: On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote: On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote: GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April. The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot. http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'. 'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.' - Bridget&Joan's Diary. The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year. The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf (Slide 25, especially). Really? Go figure http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565 What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything? Its got nothing to do with any of our weather and climate, you are exactly right. Doh silly me. As I said. You don't understand the graph you have linked to. Explain why you linked to it. |
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