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GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating
previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the
warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.

The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable
periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt


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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:28:36 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating

previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the

warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.



The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable

periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt





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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.

'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you

don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'

- Bridget&Joan's Diary.


Quite remarkable how the world is warming up and certainly the theory that 'extremes' will be the outcome of the warming, appears to be true. You just wonder 'what, where and when' will be the next extreme.

One thing I do ask myself, is how accurate is the earlier data and how is it derrived 'globally' ?

Keith (Southend)
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On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating

previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the

warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.



The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable

periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt





--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.

'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you

don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'

- Bridget&Joan's Diary.


The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year.

The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf

(Slide 25, especially).
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"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 15:28:36 UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating

previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the

warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.



The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable

periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt





--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.

'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you

don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'

- Bridget&Joan's Diary.


Quite remarkable how the world is warming up and certainly the theory that
'extremes' will be the outcome of the warming, appears to be true. You
just wonder 'what, where and when' will be the next extreme.

One thing I do ask myself, is how accurate is the earlier data and how is
it derrived 'globally' ?


Probably more accurate than you imagine :-) The sea surface temperatures
have been corrected for the change in altitude as the buckets were
tranported onto the decks of the ships where the temperature were measured
with mercury thermometers! And, of course, land temperatures have been
corrected for the Heat Island effect where appropriate.

But these are the only temperatures of the past we have, so whether they are
too low or too high, any changes have to be estimated based on them.

Cheers, Alastair.


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On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:

GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating




previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the




warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.








The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable




periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.








http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt












--




Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.




'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you




don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'




- Bridget&Joan's Diary.




The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La Nina conditions all year.



The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming trend.



http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf



(Slide 25, especially).




Really?

Go figure

http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565


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You don't understand the graph you have linked to.
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On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:

On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:

GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating




previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the




warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.








The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable




periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.








http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt












--




Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.




'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you




don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'




- Bridget&Joan's Diary.




The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have
had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has
actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La
Nina conditions all year.



The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising
over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record
annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming
trend.



http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf




(Slide 25, especially).




Really?

Go figure

http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565


What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything?

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On Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:17:39 UTC, yttiw wrote:
On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:



On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote:


On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:




GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating








previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the








warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.
















The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable








periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.
















http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt
























--








Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.








'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you








don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'








- Bridget&Joan's Diary.








The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have


had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has


actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La


Nina conditions all year.








The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising


over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record


annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming


trend.








http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf










(Slide 25, especially).








Really?




Go figure




http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565




What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything?


Its got nothing to do with any of our weather and climate, you are exactly right.

Doh silly me.
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On Sunday, December 15, 2013 5:08:36 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Sunday, 15 December 2013 12:17:39 UTC, yttiw wrote:

On 2013-12-14 19:20:04 +0000, Lawrence Jenkins said:








On Saturday, 14 December 2013 18:19:11 UTC, Dawlish wrote:




On Saturday, December 14, 2013 3:28:36 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:








GISS has this November as warmest in its record, narrowly beating
















previous holder, 2010. Of all months, I reckon it comes in 6th with the
















warmer 5 all occurring in Jan-April.
































The 12-month period ending in November is in 6th place for comparable
















periods with the period ending in 2010 still in top spot.
































http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt
















































--
















Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks. Mail: 'newsman' not 'newsboy'.
















'Don't let old age put you off starting complicated jigsaws. If you
















don't finish, it will give guests something fun to do at your funeral.'
















- Bridget&Joan's Diary.
















The extremely surprising thing about November's warmth is that we have




had ENSO neutral conditions all year and the equatorial Pacific has




actually been *below* average in terms of temperature and close to La




Nina conditions all year.
















The chances of an El Nino developing, later next year, have been rising




over the last month. That would almost certainly lead to a record




annual global temperature in 2015, given the clear underlying warming




trend.
















http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf




















(Slide 25, especially).
















Really?








Go figure








http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.c...g?w=1140&h=565








What has the energy content of the ocean got to do with anything?




Its got nothing to do with any of our weather and climate, you are exactly right.



Doh silly me.


As I said. You don't understand the graph you have linked to. Explain why you linked to it.


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