With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?

No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"

"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
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With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd
ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE
IS WARMING UP?

No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or
natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.


Over what time period?
If we are talking over the past 100 years then an emphatic *yes*, but there
has been a most definate 'pause' over the last 15 years.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:55:03 AM UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?



No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.



Keith (Southend)

http://www.southendweather.net

"Weather Home & Abroad"

Nice try Keith, but you won't be able to escape the few denialists who will point to a datum of 1998 (the super El Nino year) to try to say it isn't, even though the last decade was significantly warmer than any before and the warmest two years in the last 150 have occurred since 1998.

It is clearly warming.

Everyone with any influence in science thinks so and the data show it is and IPCC AR5, published this week, will show it is. Global temperatures are currently close to record levels despite ENSO neutral conditions and no sign of an El Nino for almost 3 years. Global ocean temperatures are at record levels despite those ENSO neutral conditions.

Climate scientists say the world is warming, because it is.

On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:55:03 AM UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP? No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water. Keith (Southend) http://www.southendweather.net "Weather Home & Abroad"

The data that scientists consider is too miniscule to worry about - the world sorts itself out and rebalances via farting volcanoes and such like.
And when climate has changed over thousands man has always had the fortitude to adapt. That river keeps bursting its banks - move. That icesheet is moving south - move. WE ADAPT AND MOVE if the climate doesnt suit us. Always have done.
So instead of wasting resources on telling us what they think is going to happen over the next hundred years perhaps they should put their efforts into solving world hunger and disease.
Big Jim

On Sunday, 22 September 2013 11:55:03 UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?



No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.



Keith (Southend)

http://www.southendweather.net

"Weather Home & Abroad"

I'll risk further abuse and say : I think we all agree the planet has warmed since coming out of the little ice age and that warming picked up again after the cooling of the sixties and yes Co2 may have played some part but how much and then at what cost to foolishly believe that the human hand is the only tweaker of the earths heat balance. It also irrefutable that satellite data has shown the warm has come to an abrupt stop almost level for the past 18years.

We also know that although co2 has risen that the temperature has literally stopped following which begs the question has temperature ever followed.

Antarctic ice is at all time high level since satellites began measuring it . None of the so called disaster scenarios have followed the said AGW theories.

Therefore it all rather interesting really, who knows where it will all end?

On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 03:55:03 -0700 (PDT)
"Keith (Southend)G" wrote:

With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought
I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE
WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?


Yes.

Last 12 months were the 7th warmest Sep-Aug periods. Temperature was
0.59C above 1901-2000 average.

11-yr mean centred on 2007 was 0.15C higher than that on 1998.

Taking a shorter averaging period, 3 yrs, the last highest value was
2006 (0.62), before that was 1998 (0.49), 1990 (0.34), 1982 (0.21), 1973
(0.04). Any bets on 2013-15 continuing the recent 8-yr cycle? A decent
El Nino next year would do the trick. ;-)


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
'In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is
bacteria.' - Benjamin Franklin

In article ,
"Keith (Southend)G" writes:
With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought
I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE
WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?

No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made
or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.

My answer is yes. Which doesn't necessarily mean that 2013 will be
warmer than 2012 (especially if you consider a particular region rather
than the globe as a whole). But when you consider timescales of decades
and longer then I'm sure the world is warming.

There was a very good article by Geoffrey Lean about the Arctic ice in
the Telegraph back on the 14th of this month. Unlike many Greens he
doesn't over-egg the pudding, but writes in what seems to me a pretty
balanced and well-informed fashion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...ht-of-day.html

Sadly the web version seems to omit the graph that is referred to in the
text and which was included in my newspaper.
--
John Hall

"Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes."
Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

On Sunday, 22 September 2013 22:17:16 UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In article ,

"Keith (Southend)G" writes:

With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought

I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE

WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?



No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made

or natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.



My answer is yes. Which doesn't necessarily mean that 2013 will be

warmer than 2012 (especially if you consider a particular region rather

than the globe as a whole). But when you consider timescales of decades

and longer then I'm sure the world is warming.



There was a very good article by Geoffrey Lean about the Arctic ice in

the Telegraph back on the 14th of this month. Unlike many Greens he

doesn't over-egg the pudding, but writes in what seems to me a pretty

balanced and well-informed fashion.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...ht-of-day.html



Sadly the web version seems to omit the graph that is referred to in the

text and which was included in my newspaper.

But at least he mentioned that the whole of the depth of the ocean had been plumbed to compare previous deep ocean temperatures with the present catastrophic ones.

Did he happen to mention how they managed to do it?
Or even better, prove that the new conditions are purely heat related and not misinterpretations of specific heat at different concentrations of solute levels?

Goes without saying I know. After all, if I could think of it a respected newspaper would take pains to gather the complete facts for the rest of us.

"Keith (Southend)G" wrote in message
...
With the latest findings to be published into this subject, I thought I'd
ask for a consensus to a simple question, DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE
IS WARMING UP?

No reference is made to the politics or the causes, beit man made or
natural flucuations, as this just muddies the water.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


Looking out of my window, I do not see any signs of warming. In fact it
seems to be cooling as winter approaches! For what is happening to the
World's climate I have to rely on people better qualified than me who study
such matters and compile the records. I gather that they are saying that the
World's climate has warmed over the last 150 years but not over the last 15.
Does that answer your question?

What do you think?

Cheers, Alastair.

"Keith (Southend)G" wrote:

With the latest findings to be published into this subject,
I thought I'd ask for a consensus to a simple question,
DO YOU THINK THE WORLD's CLIMATE IS WARMING UP?

Without a doubt - as evidenced by ocean heat content data, sea level rise,
the collapse of Antarctic ice shelves, melting of mountain glaciers, decline
of the Arctic sea ice, and at the last count about 20,000 other physical and
biological metrics consistent with a warming world (according to IPCC 2007).
All the evidence indicates that the climate system continues to accumulate
heat unabated.