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On Monday, February 25, 2013 3:52:07 PM UTC, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:28:21 -0000, Ken Cook wrote:



Any guidance much appreciated.




If you are happy about the ethics involved and that it is pure money

investment scheme and nothing to do with saving the planet then fine. I'll

just regard you as a rich leech on society.



The ethics are that the money that pays the FIT is raised from a levy on

everyones electricity bill from the very poorest up. The poor can't afford

the required capital investment so are effectively locked out of joining in

but still have to pay.



As a money based venture either it is economically viable or it is not. The

FIT payments distort the market, by paying seriously over the going price for

wholesale electricity. Solar PV would not be economically viable without the

FIT payments.



The electricity generated is not "green" even the best PV panels are not much

more than 30% efficient, if that and efficiency drops as they get hot (like

in summer). Also because of the variable and unpredictable nature of the

power produced conventional plant has to be kept on "hot standby", burning

fuel. to provide backup so any pretence that this is "carbon free" power is

just that, a pretence.



There is quite a high energy input in their manufacture and transport from

China. I seriously doubt that Solar PV ever becomes energy positive, ie the

system has produced more energy than was consumed in manufacture, transport,

installation, maintenance and disposal.



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Cheers Dave.

Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.


Well said, Dave. Like wind power it is just a money making scheme that lines the pockets of the people that can afford it and robs the people who cant.. The poor end up subsidising it - higher bills and falling ethics. I sincerely hope that when the revolution comes and it is coming (see Beppe Grillo in Italy) the people will take back what is rightfully theirs and those that complied with this disgraceful con lose out when the government contracts and feed in tariffs are declared void.
No sympathy. IT WILL SERVE YOU ALL RIGHT!!!!!
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