On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the
east."

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/


--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana. [Marx]

Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the
east."

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/


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Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this
time or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it
responsible for the HP and cold over Europe only?
Dave

"Dave Cornwell" wrote in message
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Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------


And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the
east."

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/


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Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this time
or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it responsible
for the HP and cold over Europe only?
Dave

See my last reply Dave.

Will
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On 16/12/12 19:14, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/


http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------

And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the
east."

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/



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Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this
time or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it
responsible for the HP and cold over Europe only?
Dave

It was pretty cold last week, I think on Wednesday it didn't get above
freezing in my location.

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:14:01 PM UTC, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Graham P Davis wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000

"Eskimo Will" wrote:



http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/



http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm

Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

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And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the

east."



http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/





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Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this

time or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it

responsible for the HP and cold over Europe only?

Dave

It didn't develop further than reversing the winds in the stratosphere for no more than 3 days from 13-15 Dec. Here's the eveidence:

http://wekuw.met.fu-berlin.de/~Aktue...w/wdiag/ts.php

It probably didn't have any effect on our weather. The present state of SSW research cannot say whether it would, or it wouldn't, according to the MetO, but such a weak event?? The research which has been produced before shows no such link between weak SSW events and surface blocking. To say that any SSW will enhance surface blocking really is ridiculous and cannot be supported by current research.

If it isn't; someone please show where and I will accept your evidence willingly.

If not; it's time to speak out and say to Will that he is simply ramping cold with no evidence.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:14:01 +0000
Dave Cornwell wrote:

Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000
"Eskimo Will" wrote:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance
http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/

http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------


And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the
east."

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/


---------------------------------
Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this
time or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it
responsible for the HP and cold over Europe only?
Dave

I think the link I provided gives the answer:

"The more significant the SSW, the more likely it is to have an impact at the surface and also the greater the potential impact.

"Met Office observation systems have picked up a *minor* SSW in the
stratosphere over the past few days"

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana. [Marx]

On Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:07:27 PM UTC, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:14:01 +0000

Dave Cornwell wrote:



Graham P Davis wrote:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:43:48 -0000

"Eskimo Will" wrote:



http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...inter-guidance

http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...pe-and-the-uk/



http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...ntage_Pro..htm

Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)

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And here's one that appeared a few days before the "beast from the

east."



http://metofficenews.wordpress.com/2...er-atmosphere/





---------------------------------

Well if it does help cold spells develop it either wasn't there this

time or had the complete opposite effect on our weather. Or - is it

responsible for the HP and cold over Europe only?

Dave



I think the link I provided gives the answer:



"The more significant the SSW, the more likely it is to have an impact at the surface and also the greater the potential impact.



"Met Office observation systems have picked up a *minor* SSW in the

stratosphere over the past few days"



--

Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.

Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana. [Marx]

Indeed. That's what the research shows and if someone wishes to say that minor events *will* contribute to blocking, they are really going to have to produce the research evidence to show that. If they can't; its time to admit that and stop saying that they do.