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Good grief, it's going into freefall!
http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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Col wrote in message
... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Are you taking bets on the minimum of the red curve? |
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![]() "N_Cook" wrote in message ... Col wrote in message ... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl Are you taking bets on the minimum of the red curve? A new record low looks inevitable, probably significantly below 4 million square kilometres. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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![]() "Col" wrote in message ... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png It's a snapshot Col, it doesn't mean anything, it's just weather! :-) Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- |
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On Sunday, 19 August 2012 08:56:17 UTC+1, wrote:
"Col" wrote in message ... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png It's a snapshot Col, it doesn't mean anything, it's just weather! :-) Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) --------------------------------------------- Just weather? Hmm, are you sure of that? Only 30% according to this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19391211 Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey. |
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![]() "Col" wrote in message ... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png Yes, interesting isn't it, as others have been commenting in a couple of other similar threads over the past few days. That link that Graham provided of: http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de:8084/ssmis/index.html seems to show the extent fairly well on a polar map (albeit I understand with suboptimal satellite imagery at present) especially when the png image is zoomed in and centred. Anyone have any dates as to when the new satellite will come onstream? Or does it need many months of cross-correlation with other existing imagery because its data is consiered valid? The NE passage seems well and truly open now with not even any need for a diversion towards Alaska to enter the Bering Strait. Shame that the synoptics seem to be encouraging a stubborn ice block in the McClure Strait to the north of Banks Island because otherwise the NW passage would appear to be fully open too. JGD |
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In message , Col
writes Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png Looking at the graph, it appears to be continuing to retreat at the high summer rate at a time of year when the retreat would normally be tailing off. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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says... Looking at the graph, it appears to be continuing to retreat at the high summer rate at a time of year when the retreat would normally be tailing off. If you look at the point right at the start of August, and extrapolate backwards from there, it has clearly accelerated since then. The fastest retreat of ice this year was during that first week in August. AFAICT, the fastest retreat generally occurs during the first week of July. Indeed, of all the data available in that graph, only the 10-day ave rate of retreat at the beginning of July 2009 was faster. -- Alan LeHun |
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On Aug 19, 6:43*am, "Col" wrote:
Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png You could put that chart on the Unisys archives year for year he http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/index.php With the obvious exception of 2007 it seems to follow the number of Atlantic Hurricanes. Obviously without looking at all the other tropical storms it lacks focus. But there were two exceptionally large storms in the height of 2007's season: Hurricane DEAN. 13-23 AUG. Cat 5 and Hurricane FELIX. 31 AUG - 05 SEP. Cat 5. A graph of each year it would be clearer. It gave me an idea for a blog thread though. Now I have to see if any of it looks likely: http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/bl...arctic-sea-ice |
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Col wrote in message
... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl dy/dx still constant freefall , I wonder if the representation of that graph tomorrow will include the 0 to 2 ice extent band |
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