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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png
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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png
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Are you taking bets on the minimum of the red curve?


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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png
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Are you taking bets on the minimum of the red curve?


A new record low looks inevitable, probably significantly
below 4 million square kilometres.
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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png


It's a snapshot Col, it doesn't mean anything, it's just weather! :-)

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On Sunday, 19 August 2012 08:56:17 UTC+1, wrote:
"Col" wrote in message ... Good grief, it's going into freefall! http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png It's a snapshot Col, it doesn't mean anything, it's just weather! :-) Will -- http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) ---------------------------------------------


Just weather? Hmm, are you sure of that? Only 30% according to this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19391211

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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png


Yes, interesting isn't it, as others have been commenting in a couple of
other similar threads over the past few days. That link that Graham provided
of:

http://www.iup.uni-bremen.de:8084/ssmis/index.html

seems to show the extent fairly well on a polar map (albeit I understand
with suboptimal satellite imagery at present) especially when the png image
is zoomed in and centred. Anyone have any dates as to when the new satellite
will come onstream? Or does it need many months of cross-correlation with
other existing imagery because its data is consiered valid?

The NE passage seems well and truly open now with not even any need for a
diversion towards Alaska to enter the Bering Strait. Shame that the
synoptics seem to be encouraging a stubborn ice block in the McClure Strait
to the north of Banks Island because otherwise the NW passage would appear
to be fully open too.

JGD

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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

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Looking at the graph, it appears to be continuing to retreat at the high
summer rate at a time of year when the retreat would normally be tailing
off.
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Looking at the graph, it appears to be continuing to retreat at the high
summer rate at a time of year when the retreat would normally be tailing
off.


If you look at the point right at the start of August, and extrapolate
backwards from there, it has clearly accelerated since then. The fastest
retreat of ice this year was during that first week in August. AFAICT,
the fastest retreat generally occurs during the first week of July.

Indeed, of all the data available in that graph, only the 10-day ave
rate of retreat at the beginning of July 2009 was faster.



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On Aug 19, 6:43*am, "Col" wrote:
Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png


You could put that chart on the Unisys archives year for year he
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/index.php

With the obvious exception of 2007 it seems to follow the number of
Atlantic Hurricanes.

Obviously without looking at all the other tropical storms it lacks
focus. But there were two exceptionally large storms in the height of
2007's season:

Hurricane DEAN. 13-23 AUG. Cat 5 and
Hurricane FELIX. 31 AUG - 05 SEP. Cat 5.

A graph of each year it would be clearer.
It gave me an idea for a blog thread though. Now I have to see if any
of it looks likely:

http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/bl...arctic-sea-ice

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Col wrote in message
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Good grief, it's going into freefall!

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...ent_prev_L.png
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dy/dx still constant freefall , I wonder if the representation of that graph
tomorrow will include the 0 to 2 ice extent band




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