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What I've done is look at the BBC website's 5 day forecast for my
postcode and compared them to each other. I haven't correlated whether the weather they forecast actually happened, just how often the forecasts changed (since a 5 day forecast that changes the very next day can't be relied on, so isn't any use). There was a marked improvement in forecast accuracy compared with February (Correct 1 day ahead: 33%) and the month saw the first successful 5 day forecast since Nov 8 - in fact there were 2 in a row, which hasn't happened since October. It's no coincidence that this month also had markedly fewer different types of weather forecast than last month (9 forecast, vs. 11 in Feb. 6 occurred compared to 10). So it's not really surprising that the more settled weather was easier to forecast. forecast forecast on: times num of days -- date -- on day D-1 D-2 D-3 D-4 correct changes ahead Wed 2 Mar WC* WC GC WC WC 3 2 1 Thu 3 Mar M WC SI WC SI 0 4 0 ! Fri 4 Mar SI SI SI WC WC 2 1 2 Sat 5 Mar M WC WC WC D 0 2 0 ! Sun 6 Mar WC SI WC WC SI 2 3 0 Mon 7 Mar S S S S S 4 0 4 Tue 8 Mar S* S S S S 4 0 4 Wed 9 Mar SI S WC LR WC 0 4 0 ! Thu 10 Mar SI* LRS WC LR S 0 4 0 ! Fri 11 Mar SI* SI LR SI SI 3 2 1 Sat 12 Mar SI* WC WC WC WC 0 1 0 ! Sun 13 Mar SI* SI LR LRS LRS 1 2 1 Mon 14 Mar SI* S SI WC HR 1 4 0 Tue 15 Mar M WC WC WC SI 0 2 0 ! Wed 16 Mar GC WC WC WC D 0 2 0 ! Thu 17 Mar WC WC WC WC WC 4 0 4 Fri 18 Mar LRS LRS LR WC SI 1 3 1 Sat 19 Mar S S S S SI 3 1 3 Sun 20 Mar WC WC WC WC SI 3 1 3 Mon 21 Mar WC* WC WC SI WC 3 2 2 Tue 22 Mar SI SI WC WC WC 1 1 1 Wed 23 Mar S S SI WC LR 1 3 1 Thu 24 Mar SI SI WC WC SI 2 2 1 Fri 25 Mar S S WC SI WC 1 3 1 Sat 26 Mar WC WC WC WC LR 3 1 3 Sun 27 Mar WC* WC S S S 1 1 1 Mon 28 Mar WC* SI LR WC SI 1 4 0 Tue 29 Mar SI SI LRS SI WC 2 3 1 Wed 30 Mar WC LR HR HR WC 1 3 0 Thu 31 Mar SI WC LR WC WC 0 3 0 ! For last 30 days: avg 2.13 different forecasts per day On average forecasted 1.17 days ahead Correct 4 days ahead: 3 times Correct 3 days ahead: 6 times Correct 2 days ahead: 8 times Correct 1 day ahead: 18 times (60.0%) Number of times the weather was same as yesterday(*): 10 times (33.3%) Number of days every forecast was wrong(!): 8 times (26.7%) Key: D: Drizzle 0 occurrences, predicted 2 times over-forecast GC: Grey Cloud 1 occurrences, predicted 1 times under-forecast HR: Heavy Rain 0 occurrences, predicted 3 times over-forecast LR: Light Rain 0 occurrences, predicted 10 times over-forecast LRS: Light Rain Shower 1 occurrences, predicted 5 times about right M: Mist 3 occurrences, predicted 0 times under-forecast S: Sunny 5 occurrences, predicted 19 times about right SI: Sunny Intervals 11 occurrences, predicted 25 times under-forecast WC: White Cloud 9 occurrences, predicted 55 times over-forecast As a sidenote, I now have a full year of forecasts. This is a summary of the year, in total. I hope to find the time to look into the big picture in more detail. But for now: For last 365 days: avg 2.30 different forecasts per day On average forecasted 0.99 days ahead Correct 4 days ahead: 29 times Correct 3 days ahead: 55 times Correct 2 days ahead: 99 times Correct 1 day ahead: 177 times (48.5%) Number of times the weather was same as yesterday(*): 100 times (27.4%) Number of days every forecast was wrong(!): 97 times (26.6%) Key: D: Drizzle 4 occurrences, predicted 20 times about right F: Fog 9 occurrences, predicted 14 times under-forecast GC: Grey Cloud 16 occurrences, predicted 74 times about right HR: Heavy Rain 17 occurrences, predicted 90 times over-forecast HRS: Heavy Rain Shower 17 occurrences, predicted 48 times under-forecast HS: Heavy Snow 1 occurrences, predicted 2 times under-forecast LR: Light Rain 27 occurrences, predicted 109 times about right LRS: Light Rain Shower 26 occurrences, predicted 111 times about right LS: Light Snow 2 occurrences, predicted 9 times about right LSS: Light Snow Shower 1 occurrences, predicted 4 times about right M: Mist 6 occurrences, predicted 10 times under-forecast S: Sunny 57 occurrences, predicted 237 times about right SI: Sunny Intervals 124 occurrences, predicted 490 times about right SL: Sleet 0 occurrences, predicted 7 times over-forecast TS: Thundery Shower 0 occurrences, predicted 2 times over-forecast WC: White Cloud 58 occurrences, predicted 230 times about right |
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On Apr 1, 3:39*pm, root wrote:
What I've done is look at the BBC website's 5 day forecast for my postcode and compared them to each other. *I haven't correlated whether the weather they forecast actually happened, just how often the forecasts changed (since a *5 day forecast that changes the very next day can't be relied on, so isn't any use). There was a marked improvement in forecast accuracy compared with February (Correct 1 day ahead: 33%) and the month saw the first successful 5 day forecast since Nov 8 - in fact there were 2 in a row, which hasn't happened since October. It's no coincidence that this month also had markedly fewer different types of weather forecast than last month (9 forecast, vs. 11 in Feb. 6 occurred compared to 10). So it's not really surprising that the more settled weather was easier to forecast. * * * * * forecast *forecast on: * *times * num of *days -- date -- on day * D-1 D-2 D-3 D-4 correct changes ahead Wed *2 Mar * WC* * *WC *GC *WC *WC * *3 * * * 2 * * *1 Thu *3 Mar * *M * * WC *SI *WC *SI * *0 * * * 4 * * *0 ! Fri *4 Mar * SI * * SI *SI *WC *WC * *2 * * * 1 * * *2 Sat *5 Mar * *M * * WC *WC *WC * D * *0 * * * 2 * * *0 ! Sun *6 Mar * WC * * SI *WC *WC *SI * *2 * * * 3 * * *0 Mon *7 Mar * *S * * *S * S * S * S * *4 * * * 0 * * *4 Tue *8 Mar * *S* * * S * S * S * S * *4 * * * 0 * * *4 Wed *9 Mar * SI * * *S *WC *LR *WC * *0 * * * 4 * * *0 ! Thu 10 Mar * SI* * LRS *WC *LR * S * *0 * * * 4 * * *0 ! Fri 11 Mar * SI* * *SI *LR *SI *SI * *3 * * * 2 * * *1 Sat 12 Mar * SI* * *WC *WC *WC *WC * *0 * * * 1 * * *0 ! Sun 13 Mar * SI* * *SI *LR LRS LRS * *1 * * * 2 * * *1 Mon 14 Mar * SI* * * S *SI *WC *HR * *1 * * * 4 * * *0 Tue 15 Mar * *M * * WC *WC *WC *SI * *0 * * * 2 * * *0 ! Wed 16 Mar * GC * * WC *WC *WC * D * *0 * * * 2 * * *0 ! Thu 17 Mar * WC * * WC *WC *WC *WC * *4 * * * 0 * * *4 Fri 18 Mar *LRS * *LRS *LR *WC *SI * *1 * * * 3 * * *1 Sat 19 Mar * *S * * *S * S * S *SI * *3 * * * 1 * * *3 Sun 20 Mar * WC * * WC *WC *WC *SI * *3 * * * 1 * * *3 Mon 21 Mar * WC* * *WC *WC *SI *WC * *3 * * * 2 * * *2 Tue 22 Mar * SI * * SI *WC *WC *WC * *1 * * * 1 * * *1 Wed 23 Mar * *S * * *S *SI *WC *LR * *1 * * * 3 * * *1 Thu 24 Mar * SI * * SI *WC *WC *SI * *2 * * * 2 * * *1 Fri 25 Mar * *S * * *S *WC *SI *WC * *1 * * * 3 * * *1 Sat 26 Mar * WC * * WC *WC *WC *LR * *3 * * * 1 * * *3 Sun 27 Mar * WC* * *WC * S * S * S * *1 * * * 1 * * *1 Mon 28 Mar * WC* * *SI *LR *WC *SI * *1 * * * 4 * * *0 Tue 29 Mar * SI * * SI LRS *SI *WC * *2 * * * 3 * * *1 Wed 30 Mar * WC * * LR *HR *HR *WC * *1 * * * 3 * * *0 Thu 31 Mar * SI * * WC *LR *WC *WC * *0 * * * 3 * * *0 ! For last 30 days: avg 2.13 different forecasts per day On average forecasted 1.17 days ahead Correct 4 days ahead: 3 times Correct 3 days ahead: 6 times Correct 2 days ahead: 8 times Correct 1 day ahead: 18 times (60.0%) Number of times the weather was same as yesterday(*): 10 times (33.3%) Number of days every forecast was wrong(!): 8 times (26.7%) Key: * D: * * * * * * Drizzle *0 occurrences, predicted * 2 times over-forecast *GC: * * * * *Grey Cloud *1 occurrences, predicted * 1 times under-forecast *HR: * * * * *Heavy Rain *0 occurrences, predicted * 3 times over-forecast *LR: * * * * *Light Rain *0 occurrences, predicted *10 times over-forecast LRS: * Light Rain Shower *1 occurrences, predicted * 5 times about right * M: * * * * * * * *Mist *3 occurrences, predicted * 0 times under-forecast * S: * * * * * * * Sunny *5 occurrences, predicted *19 times about right *SI: * * Sunny Intervals 11 occurrences, predicted *25 times under-forecast *WC: * * * * White Cloud *9 occurrences, predicted *55 times over-forecast As a sidenote, I now have a full year of forecasts. This is a summary of the year, in total. I hope to find the time to look into the big picture in more detail. Look forward to it Pete. But for now: For last 365 days: avg 2.30 different forecasts per day On average forecasted 0.99 days ahead Correct 4 days ahead: 29 times Correct 3 days ahead: 55 times Correct 2 days ahead: 99 times Correct 1 day ahead: 177 times (48.5%) Number of times the weather was same as yesterday(*): 100 times (27.4%) Number of days every forecast was wrong(!): 97 times (26.6%) Key: * D: * * * * * * Drizzle *4 occurrences, predicted *20 times about right * F: * * * * * * * * Fog *9 occurrences, predicted *14 times under-forecast *GC: * * * * *Grey Cloud 16 occurrences, predicted *74 times about right *HR: * * * * *Heavy Rain 17 occurrences, predicted *90 times over-forecast HRS: * Heavy Rain Shower 17 occurrences, predicted *48 times under-forecast *HS: * * * * *Heavy Snow *1 occurrences, predicted * 2 times under-forecast *LR: * * * * *Light Rain 27 occurrences, predicted 109 times about right LRS: * Light Rain Shower 26 occurrences, predicted 111 times about right *LS: * * * * *Light Snow *2 occurrences, predicted * 9 times about right LSS: * Light Snow Shower *1 occurrences, predicted * 4 times about right * M: * * * * * * * *Mist *6 occurrences, predicted *10 times under-forecast * S: * * * * * * * Sunny 57 occurrences, predicted 237 times about right *SI: * * Sunny Intervals 124 occurrences, predicted 490 times about right *SL: * * * * * * * Sleet *0 occurrences, predicted * 7 times over-forecast *TS: * * Thundery Shower *0 occurrences, predicted * 2 times over-forecast *WC: * * * * White Cloud 58 occurrences, predicted 230 times about right Thanks again, Paul |
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