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With the surface wind continuing to be WNW here in Essex this cold snap
appears to be shaping up like most in recent years. The initially
forecast bitter NE'lies are cut off initially by low pressure in the
North Sea to be later replaced by a low pressure warm sector. We will
see how this develops but there have been very few examples here in
recent years of biting Easterlies/North easterlies blowing frequent
heavy snow showers inland, leaving deep, dry, drifting snow, similar to
the current conditions in the NE.
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With the surface wind continuing to be WNW here in Essex this cold snap
appears to be shaping up like most in recent years. The initially forecast
bitter NE'lies are cut off initially by low pressure in the North Sea to
be later replaced by a low pressure warm sector. We will see how this
develops but there have been very few examples here in recent years of
biting Easterlies/North easterlies blowing frequent heavy snow showers
inland, leaving deep, dry, drifting snow, similar to the current
conditions in the NE.
Dave


My thoughts too - right from when this bitter spell of Northeasterlies was
forecast. It might still zap us I suppose - eventually - as the latest GFS
is stabbing at again.

T'other thing we've not had for at least 3 years is overnight summer heat
thunderstorms, they always seemed to track up the N Sea and stay E of us.

I have just had a 10 minute white shower which severely reduced the
visibility, but was wholly of very small snow pellets, like rice.
Afterwards the persistent stratus of the last two days had a clear cut edge
overhead with No ST to East just a line of brilliantly lit CB tops not so
far away. Now the St has spread back over.

Living on the edge - in Mid Suffolk - NSS.

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On 25/11/10 13:01, Dave Cornwell wrote:
With the surface wind continuing to be WNW here in Essex this cold snap
appears to be shaping up like most in recent years. The initially
forecast bitter NE'lies are cut off initially by low pressure in the
North Sea to be later replaced by a low pressure warm sector. We will
see how this develops but there have been very few examples here in
recent years of biting Easterlies/North easterlies blowing frequent
heavy snow showers inland, leaving deep, dry, drifting snow, similar to
the current conditions in the NE.
Dave


Indeed.

There seems to have been a shift in the wind direction today, so the
showers are no longer confined to the far NE corner of Norfolk, and are
penetrating further west.

After a snow shower overnight that gave a light covering, the showers
have reverted to rain or sleet.

Typical damp, raw cold I was expecting.

TBH, I don't ever remember having the type of weather you describe, in
November. January - yes, but not November.

I'm really hoping that this cold this early will mean raging zonality
for the rest of the winter. Some lovely warm-sector 14c days in February
would be nice too .

Chris
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Chris Smith wrote:
On 25/11/10 13:01, Dave Cornwell wrote:
With the surface wind continuing to be WNW here in Essex this cold snap
appears to be shaping up like most in recent years. The initially
forecast bitter NE'lies are cut off initially by low pressure in the
North Sea to be later replaced by a low pressure warm sector. We will
see how this develops but there have been very few examples here in
recent years of biting Easterlies/North easterlies blowing frequent
heavy snow showers inland, leaving deep, dry, drifting snow, similar to
the current conditions in the NE.
Dave


Indeed.

There seems to have been a shift in the wind direction today, so the
showers are no longer confined to the far NE corner of Norfolk, and are
penetrating further west.

After a snow shower overnight that gave a light covering, the showers
have reverted to rain or sleet.

Typical damp, raw cold I was expecting.

TBH, I don't ever remember having the type of weather you describe, in
November. January - yes, but not November.

I'm really hoping that this cold this early will mean raging zonality
for the rest of the winter. Some lovely warm-sector 14c days in February
would be nice too .

Chris

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Yes, I agree, Chris - in fact even a February March thing. Nevertheless
the influence of a cold Scandi High has been lacking for a long time. I
also thought there had been massive instabilty forecast with showers
breaking out anywhere but it seems more of our usual grey stratus stuff,
at the moment, anyway.
Dave
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On Nov 25, 2:46*pm, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Chris Smith wrote:
On 25/11/10 13:01, Dave Cornwell wrote:
With the surface wind continuing to be WNW here in Essex this cold snap
appears to be shaping up like most in recent years. The initially
forecast bitter NE'lies are cut off initially by low pressure in the
North Sea to be later replaced by a low pressure warm sector. We will
see how this develops but there have been very few examples here in
recent years of biting Easterlies/North easterlies blowing frequent
heavy snow showers inland, leaving deep, dry, drifting snow, similar to
the current conditions in the NE.
Dave


Indeed.


There seems to have been a shift in the wind direction today, so the
showers are no longer confined to the far NE corner of Norfolk, and are
penetrating further west.


After a snow shower overnight that gave a light covering, the showers
have reverted to rain or sleet.


Typical damp, raw cold I was expecting.


TBH, I don't ever remember having the type of weather you describe, in
November. January - yes, but not November.


I'm really hoping that this cold this early will mean raging zonality
for the rest of the winter. Some lovely warm-sector 14c days in February
would be nice too .


Chris


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Yes, I agree, Chris - in fact even a February March thing. Nevertheless
the influence of a cold Scandi High has been lacking for a long time. I
also thought there had been massive instabilty forecast with showers
breaking out anywhere but it seems more of our usual grey stratus stuff,
at the moment, anyway.
Dave
Dave


Dave,

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

Those showers over Norfolk/Suffolk may have something left in them
when they reach us later.

Colder today than I was expecting, max (so far) 1.9°C and dew point
has stayed below -1.0 all day. Quite amazing as it's still November,
but with sea temps were they are this time of year a slight cut off
from the feed source and we're rain, but we're not there yet.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"


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Keith (Southend)G wrote:

http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

Those showers over Norfolk/Suffolk may have something left in them
when they reach us later.


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I very much doubt it - they don't look very potent to me!
Dave
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On 25/11/10 16:33, Dave Cornwell wrote:
I very much doubt it - they don't look very potent to me!
Dave


Enough to give us a slushy covering, but it's melting now.
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