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The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out.
January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt |
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On Friday 05 Feb 2010 08:48, Dawlish scribbled:
The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt Paul, I can only see figures there up to December. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." |
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On Feb 5, 9:27*am, Graham P Davis wrote:
On Friday 05 Feb 2010 08:48, Dawlish scribbled: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt Paul, I can only see figures there up to December. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." Sorry Graham; He's not updated the dataseries - the January figure is on his homepage: http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...te-0-42-deg-c/ Dr Spencer appears to have gone very quiet since the last 7 months have been record-breakingly warm! *)) |
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On Feb 5, 9:34*am, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 5, 9:27*am, Graham P Davis wrote: On Friday 05 Feb 2010 08:48, Dawlish scribbled: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt Paul, I can only see figures there up to December. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. *E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." Sorry Graham; He's not updated the dataseries - the January figure is on his homepage: http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... Dr Spencer appears to have gone very quiet since the last 7 months have been record-breakingly warm! *)) I do him a disservice. He has a commentary on a different part of the site. Click on "Home/blog" on the homepage. |
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, Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? -- John Hall "Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people from coughing." Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) |
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On Feb 5, 10:39*am, John Hall wrote:
In article , *Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? -- John Hall * * * * * *"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people * * * * * * from coughing." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) |
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On Friday 05 Feb 2010 10:39, John Hall scribbled:
In article , Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? See http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/ -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy "I wear the cheese. It does not wear me." |
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On Feb 5, 10:39*am, John Hall wrote:
In article , *Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? -- John Hall * * * * * *"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people * * * * * * from coughing." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) Sorry John. Thought I'd posted this. Yes, of course. 0.13!! My first link only goes to Dec 2009, but my second leads you to the "Home/Blog. Click on that for his analysis. RSS is also out today at +0.64C. Again, quite easily the warmest January in the RSS satellite series. We'll have to wait for mid-month to see whether the ground-based surface temperature series agree. I suspect they will. January was a record-breaking month according to the two satellite measures, despite the cold over Western Europe and the NE of the USA. February has started similarly warm, but to be record-breaking would be unlikely IMO, as the figures from Feb (and for the next few months) are competing with the super El Nino year of 1998. That's what makes these temperatures so interesting ATM. We have a moderate El Nino; not as strong as the 1998 one which produced the record (Hadley) of near record (GISS) global temperatures. The peak temperatures of that El Nino were in the first half of 1998. If the first half of 2010 approaches those values, it will be easily the warmest 12 month period on record (June-June, in tis case). If those values are exceeded, then 2010 could be the warmest year on record. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001 (Hover to the bottom left for "near surface layer and play about including various years. It would be good to have 1998 in that, but sadly, it's not there) In a solar minimum and with a negative PDO, what would most scientists think about the implications of that and the major cause of global warming? It hasn't happened yet, of course, but it is thinking about those figures that are behind the MetO/Hadley prediction that 2010 will be the warmest year on record. A moderate El Nino, plus continued GW since 1998 should produce somewhere near record-breaking world global temperatures. Like I say, we'll see. Outcome temperatures are the only measure of GW................I think I may have repeated myself there! *)) |
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On Feb 5, 12:53*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 5, 10:39*am, John Hall wrote: In article , *Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? -- John Hall * * * * * *"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people * * * * * * from coughing." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) Sorry John. Thought I'd posted this. Yes, of course. 0.13!! My first link only goes to Dec 2009, but my second leads you to the "Home/Blog. Click on that for his analysis. RSS is also out today at +0.64C. Again, quite easily the warmest January in the RSS satellite series. We'll have to wait for mid-month to see whether the ground-based surface temperature series agree. I suspect they will. January was a record-breaking month according to the two satellite measures, despite the cold over Western Europe and the NE of the USA. February has started similarly warm, but to be record-breaking would be unlikely IMO, as the figures from Feb (and for the next few months) are competing with the super El Nino year of 1998. That's what makes these temperatures so interesting ATM. We have a moderate El Nino; not as strong as the 1998 one which produced the record (Hadley) of near record (GISS) global temperatures. The peak temperatures of that El Nino were in the first half of 1998. If the first half of 2010 approaches those values, it will be easily the warmest 12 month period on record (June-June, in tis case). If those values are exceeded, then 2010 could be the warmest year on record. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001 (Hover to the bottom left for "near surface layer and play about including various years. It would be good to have 1998 in that, but sadly, it's not there) In a solar minimum and with a negative PDO, what would most scientists think about the implications of that and the major cause of global warming? It hasn't happened yet, of course, but it is thinking about those figures that are behind the MetO/Hadley prediction that 2010 will be the warmest year on record. A moderate El Nino, plus continued GW since 1998 should produce somewhere near record-breaking world global temperatures. Like I say, we'll see. Outcome temperatures are the only measure of GW................I think I may have repeated myself there! *))- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - NOAA January figures have sneaked out on a Sunday! 4th warmest January in their 130-year series. Southern hemisphere land areas were the warmest on record and were warmer than those of the Northern hemisphere. The world's oceans were very warm; ocean temperatures in January were only beaten by the super El Nino January ocean temperatures of 1998. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...d=Get+Rep ort |
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On Feb 14, 8:42*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Feb 5, 12:53*pm, Dawlish wrote: On Feb 5, 10:39*am, John Hall wrote: In article , *Dawlish writes: The first satellite measure, Roy Spencer's UAH dataset, is out. January was easily the warmest January in his 31-year satellite sequence at +0.72C, A record month by the wide margin of 1.3C: http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt How that would be quite something, but I imagine that the margin was meant to read 0,13C. Looking at the page you linked to, it only seems to go up to December, 2009. Maybe the author noticed an error and has deleted January, 2010 while he corrects the mistake? -- John Hall * * * * * *"Acting is merely the art of keeping a large group of people * * * * * * from coughing." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Sir Ralph Richardson (1902-83) Sorry John. Thought I'd posted this. Yes, of course. 0.13!! My first link only goes to Dec 2009, but my second leads you to the "Home/Blog. Click on that for his analysis. RSS is also out today at +0.64C. Again, quite easily the warmest January in the RSS satellite series. We'll have to wait for mid-month to see whether the ground-based surface temperature series agree. I suspect they will. January was a record-breaking month according to the two satellite measures, despite the cold over Western Europe and the NE of the USA. February has started similarly warm, but to be record-breaking would be unlikely IMO, as the figures from Feb (and for the next few months) are competing with the super El Nino year of 1998. That's what makes these temperatures so interesting ATM. We have a moderate El Nino; not as strong as the 1998 one which produced the record (Hadley) of near record (GISS) global temperatures. The peak temperatures of that El Nino were in the first half of 1998. If the first half of 2010 approaches those values, it will be easily the warmest 12 month period on record (June-June, in tis case). If those values are exceeded, then 2010 could be the warmest year on record. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...?amsutemps+001 (Hover to the bottom left for "near surface layer and play about including various years. It would be good to have 1998 in that, but sadly, it's not there) In a solar minimum and with a negative PDO, what would most scientists think about the implications of that and the major cause of global warming? It hasn't happened yet, of course, but it is thinking about those figures that are behind the MetO/Hadley prediction that 2010 will be the warmest year on record. A moderate El Nino, plus continued GW since 1998 should produce somewhere near record-breaking world global temperatures. Like I say, we'll see. Outcome temperatures are the only measure of GW................I think I may have repeated myself there! *))- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - NOAA January figures have sneaked out on a Sunday! 4th warmest January in their 130-year series. Southern hemisphere land areas were the warmest on record and were warmer than those of the Northern hemisphere. The world's oceans were very warm; ocean temperatures in January were only beaten by the super El Nino January ocean temperatures of 1998. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?repor...h=1&submit...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - GISS figures out: +0.71C The 2nd= warmest January in their 130 year sequence. The 2 satellite datasets put January as the warmest on record, AA has it as 4th warmest and GISS 2nd=. It was a very warm month. |
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