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Old January 18th 10, 01:56 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,uk.sci.weather
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Default More denialist crap, This from J Hansen, 1967

On Jan 18, 4:51*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Jan 18, 11:27*am, "
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On Jan 8, 8:13*pm, "
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* * Will the 22 January be sufficient? Let me
* * *know if you need mote time?


http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1967/...Matsushima.pdf


This is about the most damning article ever published to AGW. Hansen
wrote this before the false theory of greenhouse gases was
regurgitated by theoretical scientists.


This article proves;
a) The concept of greenhouse gases is not supported by any modern
science. It was not a part of theoretical science at the time of this
article or Hansen would have had to account for the effects of the
gases of the atmosphere, WHICH HE DOES NOT.


b) It proves any use of the term 'greenhouse gas' is not valid and the
propaganda of algore and others is crminal fraud.


c) It proves Hansen to be the charlatan that he is. Here he falsifies
theoretical physics to his end conclusion that it is dust in the
atmosphere of Venus that is causing the high temperatures. He
discounts the other theories of 'clouds' and gases of CO2 or H2O.


Eventually among the theoretical assholes, the idea of greenhouse
gases won out for the explanation of the temperature of Venus. Now
this is pointed to as scientific proof of the concept.


There is NO SCIENCE in this and NO SCIENCE in this article from
Hansen, or any other articles from Hansen. Hansen is a fraud and
charlatan, and careful analysis of his work shows this clearly.


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http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Gen...s-Carl-Pauling...


In this book from a Nobel Laureate in chemistry from the 1950's, a
complete analysis of gases is given in which all laboratory evidence
of gases is acknowledged up to this time. This analysis of gases
precludes and proves the concept of greenhouse gases invalid.


A simple analysis of gases and the energy that can be transfered by
gases, proves the concept that some gases are 'transparent' or 'non-
reactive' to infrared radiation to be invalid, and accounting of the
energy transfered by infrared radiation shows that the inordinate
absorption claimed from CO2 and methane to be completely false and
erroneous.


Scientific proof that the EPA's ratings for 'greenhouse gases' is
invalid and criminal in application to any application of law.


The theoretical beliefs of 'scientists' means nothing in direct view
of direct science.


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You should know by my posts, that my postition is that all of the
scientists of AGW are pure charlatan's. They and the theoretical
physicists that accomadate their bull**** theory are charlatans.


There is absolutely no science or theoretical science for AGW. There
is absolutely no effect upon climate from humans, and proper science
can PROVE this fact.


The daily operation of these charlatan's is to falsify, omit and
distort any actual science for thier false conclusions. Their motive
for this is initially personal advancement and then for the sheer
embezzlement of public funding this falsification of science brings
them.


The email from Phil Jones in which he is warning the other top
comrades in proxies that he has altered their studies according to
Mann's method of 'mining' the data points that fit the curve that is
wanted, shows that this is a conspiracy.


In this email, P Jones shows that he is conscious of the forgery of M
Mann of the hockey stick graph, which was accepted and the main
operatiing graph of the IPCC for a long time, and basically is still
their graph which they presented at Copenhagen.


He then states that he is using this manner of forgery himself.


It is clear that he has also forged and falsified the world
temperature statistics of the CRU. This was the most complete record
of world statistics. GISS and NOAA and the Met Office, use these
statistics of which they only recieve the 'modified' versions.


Phil Jones, (the self incriminated forger) had complete control over
these statistics and their hard copies. *Now we find out the hard
copies have been destroyed. And it is claimed that when CRU moved
their computers, the intial computer code of these records was also
lost. So now we must only depend upon the integrity of P Jones for the
accuracy of the records and their modifications or corrections.


This means that all of the continued use of science based upon or
using this data is fraudulent, and those doing so are criminally and
civially liable for this fraud and aggresion against people and
nations.


The complaceny of people willing to accept the fraud of these
theoretical scientists will someday fade, and they will be held
rightfully to their criminal and civil liability for their falsified
science.


KD


The level of tosh has gone up a gear**.

There is a high probability* that in 10-20 years you will have been
shown to be entirely wrong and that you will wonder what on earth
prompted you to rail against all this inmagined climate conspiracy in
this way.

*probability, as there is an outside chance you may be correct. I
don't think you are, but certainty is not something I'm prepared to
deal in!

**any chance of keeping this stuff to your own little group instead of
cross posting it? If I'd wanted to dip into those other 4 newsgroups
to see what you'd written, I would do. Hey! Why not post it to all the
newsgroups; imagine then the amount of people who would be able to see
the truth!


Don't pay any mind to deathrage. He's a cent or two short of a dollar.

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Default More denialist crap, This from J Hansen, 1967

On Jan 18, 8:56*am, JohnM wrote:
On Jan 18, 4:51*pm, Dawlish wrote:


On Jan 18, 11:27*am, "
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Don't pay any mind to deathrage. He's a cent or two short of a dollar.-


So asshole, explain why you idiots are so against methane emissions?

Cows eat grass and make methane. If they did not eat this grass, this
grass would decay and make methane anyway.

Cows are ablsolute carbon neutral, yet you idiots are all in a rage to
tax cows and all livestock.

****ING IDIOTS

This is also true of landfills. All the organic matter would also be
decomposed into methane and then CO2. Only carbon pumped out of the
earth is not carbon neutral.

Also methane offsets are absolutely stupid. Methane only exists for
10-12 years in the atmosphere. And then is converted naturally to CO2
and water. Selling offests for 'flaring' methane is sheer idiocy.

KD


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