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Doing a weather check at around 0615 Sunday morning, I was surprised to
see a distant flash of lightning. A look at radar returns suggests that the storm was in the Southampton / Winchester area some 200 kilometres from where I was observing in the south of Cambridgeshire. I am impressed by the distance that the storm was visible. However, a calculation of line of sight from my vantage point at over 400 feet above sea level to an object (flash) at say 25,000 feet is in excess of 350 kilometres. It was just a slight surprise to realise that distant flashes can be as far away as this. I had tended to assume (without really thinking about it) that they were much closer. Jack |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Doing a weather check at around 0615 Sunday morning, I was surprised to see a distant flash of lightning. A look at radar returns suggests that the storm was in the Southampton / Winchester area some 200 kilometres from where I was observing in the south of Cambridgeshire. I am impressed by the distance that the storm was visible. However, a calculation of line of sight from my vantage point at over 400 feet above sea level to an object (flash) at say 25,000 feet is in excess of 350 kilometres. It was just a slight surprise to realise that distant flashes can be as far away as this. I had tended to assume (without really thinking about it) that they were much closer. Jack I remember one occasion talking to Norwich ATC who had observed lightning to their SE. IIRC the nearest sferics were near Amsterdam. Jon. |
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![]() Jon O'Rourke wrote: I remember one occasion talking to Norwich ATC who had observed lightning to their SE. IIRC the nearest sferics were near Amsterdam. As a youngster living in Great Yarmouth on the Norfolk coast, I would often see thunderstorms way out to the east. Many, many years later as a commercial pilot, I would frequently have to dodge around storms some 40 kms off the Dutch coast. This seemed to be a favoured area for storm development, especially at night. With more understanding, I would now presume that one of the contributory factors is a land breeze convergence. There is an interesting convergence at this very moment (0940) with a narrow line of showers running from Weymouth to Norwich. The converging winds show well on: http://www.xcweather.co.uk/ Jack |
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![]() Jack ) wrote: Jon O'Rourke wrote: I remember one occasion talking to Norwich ATC who had observed lightning to their SE. IIRC the nearest sferics were near Amsterdam. As a youngster living in Great Yarmouth on the Norfolk coast, I would often see thunderstorms way out to the east. Many, many years later as a commercial pilot, I would frequently have to dodge around storms some 40 kms off the Dutch coast. This seemed to be a favoured area for storm development, especially at night. With more understanding, I would now presume that one of the contributory factors is a land breeze convergence. I remember seeing distant lightning to the west through much of the night from Cardiff airport many years ago. I found out later in the night that the nearest storms were running down the Irish Sea close to the east coast of Ireland. |
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On 26 Nov 2006 00:17:09 -0800, "Jack )"
wrote: Doing a weather check at around 0615 Sunday morning, I was surprised to see a distant flash of lightning. A look at radar returns suggests that the storm was in the Southampton / Winchester area some 200 kilometres from where I was observing in the south of Cambridgeshire. I am impressed by the distance that the storm was visible. However, a calculation of line of sight from my vantage point at over 400 feet above sea level to an object (flash) at say 25,000 feet is in excess of 350 kilometres. It was just a slight surprise to realise that distant flashes can be as far away as this. I had tended to assume (without really thinking about it) that they were much closer. Hi Jack, I was awake at 7 am here in West Fareham, having been woken up by the thunder and lightning as it approached from Southampton and further W/SW. It (or some of it) was directly overhead here at 7 am - it's quite astonishing to realise that you were watching this activity even before I saw and heard it! I wish I could relate to 200 kilometres but no, oh dear! Hmmm...let me see, 200 x 5/8? Wow, 125 miles! ![]() -- Dave Fareham (West) |
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