http://wxmaps.org/pix/euro.jet.html

100m/s = 226mph, that's the predicted speed of the Jet Stream on
Thursday in the Atlantic, wow.
--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

Keith (Southend) wrote:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/euro.jet.html

100m/s = 226mph, that's the predicted speed of the Jet Stream on
Thursday in the Atlantic, wow.
--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
e-mail: kreh at southendweather dot net

Just watch how this chart develops too!

http://www.flightplanning.navcanada....t00-est-e.html

Karl Cooper, Orkney

Karl Cooper wrote:

Just watch how this chart develops too!

http://www.flightplanning.navcanada....t00-est-e.html

There was a similar Atlantic-wide jet prior to the October Storm and if
I have my anecdotes correct, the New York - London planes were getting
in 2 hours early (I've not thought about doing the maths to check if
that's true for a 200-250mph jetstream!).

I recall being pleasantly surprised coming back from Boston after New
Year 2004/5 when the journey took 5hr 20 mins as the pilot took
advantage of a vigorous jetstream !

Richard

Richard Dixon wrote:
Karl Cooper wrote:

Just watch how this chart develops too!

http://www.flightplanning.navcanada....t00-est-e.html

There was a similar Atlantic-wide jet prior to the October Storm and if
I have my anecdotes correct, the New York - London planes were getting
in 2 hours early (I've not thought about doing the maths to check if
that's true for a 200-250mph jetstream!).

I recall being pleasantly surprised coming back from Boston after New
Year 2004/5 when the journey took 5hr 20 mins as the pilot took
advantage of a vigorous jetstream !


On the contrary, a jet stream over Labrador and the St Lawrence made me
two hours late into Toronto, I was too late to pick up the apartment
keys and had to drive around looking for a hotel during heavy snow.

Martin

Richard

"Keith (Southend)" wrote in message
...
http://wxmaps.org/pix/euro.jet.html

100m/s = 226mph, that's the predicted speed of the Jet Stream on
Thursday in the Atlantic, wow.

.... a trifle 'bumpy' (!) too: not only is it a 200kn
anticyclonically-curved jetstream, but it translates, changes shape and
changes strength as it propagates downstream. CAT is notoriously fickle,
so it's not a 'given' that everyone would experience SEV CAT (some of
the smoothest conditions are found in the vicinity of such features),
but given the other changes in the troposphere / lower stratosphere,
someone will experience a few heart flutters.

Martin.


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mind you if you get to uk 2 hours early can you find a slot to land in ?


"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
oups.com...

Karl Cooper wrote:

Just watch how this chart develops too!

http://www.flightplanning.navcanada....t00-est-e.html

There was a similar Atlantic-wide jet prior to the October Storm and if
I have my anecdotes correct, the New York - London planes were getting
in 2 hours early (I've not thought about doing the maths to check if
that's true for a 200-250mph jetstream!).

I recall being pleasantly surprised coming back from Boston after New
Year 2004/5 when the journey took 5hr 20 mins as the pilot took
advantage of a vigorous jetstream !

Richard

Any idea what the average shortest time airlines can do the Boston Logan to
Heathrow route in? I am sure we did it in 4.45hrs a few years back with a
big tail.
"flybywire" wrote in message
...
mind you if you get to uk 2 hours early can you find a slot to land in ?


"Richard Dixon" wrote in message
oups.com...

Karl Cooper wrote:

Just watch how this chart develops too!

http://www.flightplanning.navcanada....t00-est-e.html

There was a similar Atlantic-wide jet prior to the October Storm and if
I have my anecdotes correct, the New York - London planes were getting
in 2 hours early (I've not thought about doing the maths to check if
that's true for a 200-250mph jetstream!).

I recall being pleasantly surprised coming back from Boston after New
Year 2004/5 when the journey took 5hr 20 mins as the pilot took
advantage of a vigorous jetstream !

Richard

"Keith (Southend)" wrote:

100m/s = 226mph, that's the predicted speed of the Jet Stream on Thursday
in the Atlantic, wow.

Except the New York flight path is (I'm pretty sure) much further north of
the projected course of this jet. I was very surprised - though I
shouldn't have been - when I first went to NY to find the plane went up over
Scotland and then just south of Greenland and the first sight of N. America
we had was of Labrador.

This year we went to Chicago and we did fly over southern Greenland (which
was **** completely clouded over).

:-) Tom.