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Scientists are saying, that new research is contradicting
global warming and saying that if the ice caps further break off and or melt then the uk is at risk of getting much colder! Myself ive been saying this for years sigh.. |
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![]() "nguk" wrote in message ... Scientists are saying, that new research is contradicting global warming and saying that if the ice caps further break off and or melt then the uk is at risk of getting much colder! Yep, saw that on the beeb. Interesting...again. Buoy oh buoy, it just gets bitter and bitter... The gulf between the opposing camps seems to be widening! Well that's current affairs for you.... ;-)) |
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Yep, saw that on the beeb. Interesting...again. Buoy oh buoy, it just gets bitter and bitter... The gulf between the opposing camps seems to be widening! Well that's current affairs for you.... ;-)) So going by the anti global warming method i should be expecting ice caps in the north sea by say 2020? I need some ice for my drinks probably cheaper :d |
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JCW wrote:
"nguk" wrote in message ... Scientists are saying, that new research is contradicting global warming and saying that if the ice caps further break off and or melt then the uk is at risk of getting much colder! Yep, saw that on the beeb. Interesting...again. Buoy oh buoy, it just gets bitter and bitter... The gulf between the opposing camps seems to be widening! Well that's current affairs for you.... ;-)) They is no gulf between the opposing camps because they are the same camp! Global Warming refers to the overall warming of the the Globe. The UK is not the whole Globe. The "new research" does not contradict Global Warming as Nigel himself admits when he says "if the ice caps further break off or melt then the UK is at risk of getting much colder." This theory requires Global Warming to occur for the UK to cool down. This "new research" is not a new theory but new measurements showing that the part of the Gulf Stream transporting water Eastwards to Africa has strengthened whilst the NAD, which moves warm water NE past the UK, has weakened. This is what would be expected during a switch of the current system in the North Atlantic. More than forty years ago, scientists were aware that sudden changes in these currents had occurred in the past. In the new circulation, the NAD would cease to exist. The Gulf Stream would be a closed anticyclonic circulation with its warm water probably extending no further north than 45N. To the north of this, there would be a cyclonic circulation of cold water fed by the East Greenland and Labrador currents. These cold currents would flow east across the Atlantic towards the UK then NE, taking the place of the NAD. -- Graham Davis Bracknell |
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![]() They is no gulf between the opposing camps because they are the same camp! Global Warming refers to the overall warming of the the Globe. The UK is not the whole Globe. The "new research" does not contradict Global Warming as Nigel himself admits when he says "if the ice caps further break off or melt then the UK is at risk of getting much colder." This theory requires Global Warming to occur for the UK to cool down. This "new research" is not a new theory but new measurements showing that the part of the Gulf Stream transporting water Eastwards to Africa has strengthened whilst the NAD, which moves warm water NE past the UK, has weakened. This is what would be expected during a switch of the current system in the North Atlantic. More than forty years ago, scientists were aware that sudden changes in these currents had occurred in the past. In the new circulation, the NAD would cease to exist. The Gulf Stream would be a closed anticyclonic circulation with its warm water probably extending no further north than 45N. To the north of this, there would be a cyclonic circulation of cold water fed by the East Greenland and Labrador currents. These cold currents would flow east across the Atlantic towards the UK then NE, taking the place of the NAD. -- Graham Davis Bracknell That was a great read Graham, and no im not taking the **** ![]() |
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Graham P Davis wrote:
In the new circulation, the NAD would cease to exist. The Gulf Stream would be a closed anticyclonic circulation with its warm water probably extending no further north than 45N. Would that fuel more and more powerful hurricanes? -- Peter |
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Peter Hayes wrote:
Graham P Davis wrote: In the new circulation, the NAD would cease to exist. The Gulf Stream would be a closed anticyclonic circulation with its warm water probably extending no further north than 45N. Would that fuel more and more powerful hurricanes? Hadn't thought about that but it seems probable. I suppose one way of looking at it could be that if one route for carrying heat from the Tropics is closed down (NAD), then would hurricanes have to carry more of the burden? -- Graham Davis Bracknell |
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Graham P Davis wrote:
Peter Hayes wrote: Graham P Davis wrote: In the new circulation, the NAD would cease to exist. The Gulf Stream would be a closed anticyclonic circulation with its warm water probably extending no further north than 45N. Would that fuel more and more powerful hurricanes? Hadn't thought about that but it seems probable. I suppose one way of looking at it could be that if one route for carrying heat from the Tropics is closed down (NAD), then would hurricanes have to carry more of the burden? The effect could have started already. -- Peter |
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![]() "JCW" wrote in message ... "nguk" wrote in message ... Scientists are saying, that new research is contradicting global warming and saying that if the ice caps further break off and or melt then the uk is at risk of getting much colder! Yep, saw that on the beeb. Interesting...again. Buoy oh buoy, it just gets bitter and bitter... The gulf between the opposing camps seems to be widening! Well that's current affairs for you.... ;-)) Sorry JCW didn't quite get your er erm ...drift. Now all this talk about the Gulf Stream weakening - has Tiger Woods developed a prostate problem? |
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