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Dear All
I'm sure most will pick up on this as the day goes along but Hurricane Wilma's central pressure has dropped like the proverbial stone in the last few hours, I'm sure it must be near record-breaking intensification rates. 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 According to the NHC 07Z update, it matches the 1935 Labor Day hurricane pressure. If my mind serves me correctly, only Gilbert ever got lower in its history at 888mb. Richard |
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Richard Dixon wrote in news:3rmb82Fkap1vU1
@individual.net: 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 A bit more digging around and the Hurricane Research Division FAQ indicates: "In the Atlantic Hurricane Gilbert went from 960 mb to 888 mb in a 24 hour period for a 3 mb/hr pressure drop. The winds went from 57 to 82 m/s (110 kt to 160 kt, 127 mph to 184 mph) in that 24 hour period." Compare Wilma's 970-892mb in 10 hours (7.8mb/hr) with Gilbert's 960mb to 888mb in 24 hours (3mb/hr) and seemingly we've got a record intensification rate if I've got my maths right. Regards Richard |
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![]() "Richard Dixon" wrote in message ... Richard Dixon wrote in news:3rmb82Fkap1vU1 @individual.net: 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 A bit more digging around and the Hurricane Research Division FAQ indicates: "In the Atlantic Hurricane Gilbert went from 960 mb to 888 mb in a 24 hour period for a 3 mb/hr pressure drop. The winds went from 57 to 82 m/s (110 kt to 160 kt, 127 mph to 184 mph) in that 24 hour period." Compare Wilma's 970-892mb in 10 hours (7.8mb/hr) with Gilbert's 960mb to 888mb in 24 hours (3mb/hr) and seemingly we've got a record intensification rate if I've got my maths right. If that's correct it's pretty scary - could be looking at record low. Has it been a linear drop ? t |
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Richard Dixon writes: I'm sure most will pick up on this as the day goes along but Hurricane Wilma's central pressure has dropped like the proverbial stone in the last few hours, I'm sure it must be near record-breaking intensification rates. 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 Since the date appears to be wrong, can we believe the rest of it? Or is this actually a forecast rather than what has already occurred? -- John Hall "The covers of this book are too far apart." Ambrose Bierce (1842-1914) |
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Latest update:
IN ADDITION TO THE SPECTACULAR CLOUD PATTERN OBSERVED ON SATELLITE ....AN AIR FORCE RECONNAISSANCE PLANE MEASURED 168 KNOTS AT 700 MB AND ESTIMATED A MINIMUM PRESSURE OF 884 MB EXTRAPOLATED FROM 700MB. UNOFFICIALLY...THE METEOROLOGIST ON BOARD THE PLANE RELIED AN EXTRAPOLATED 881 MB PRESSURE AND MEASURED 884 MB WITH A DROPSONDE. THIS IS ALL IN ASSOCIATION WITH A VERY SMALL EYE THAT HAS BEEN OSCILLATING BETWEEN 2 AND 4 N MI DURING EYE PENETRATIONS. THIS IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST MINIMUM PRESSURE EVER OBSERVED IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN AND IS FOLLOWED BY THE 888 MB MINIMUM PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH HURRICANE GILBERT IN 1988. HOWEVER...ONE MUST BE VERY CAREFUL BEFORE IT IS DECLARED A RECORD MINIMUM PRESSURE UNTIL A FULL AND DETAILED CALIBRATION OF THE INSTRUMENTS AND CALCULATIONS IS PERFORMED. SO PLEASE DO NOT JUMP INTO CONCLUSIONS YET...BE PATIENT |
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John Hall wrote in
: 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 Since the date appears to be wrong, can we believe the rest of it? Or is this actually a forecast rather than what has already occurred? Sorry - that was my tabulation above, I'm a day ahead of myself! Richard |
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A 44mb drop in 2hrs - thats incredible !
Couldn't believe it was already a cat 5 when I checked this morning. Tony Cummins wrote: "Richard Dixon" wrote in message ... Richard Dixon wrote in news:3rmb82Fkap1vU1 @individual.net: 21Z/19th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/20th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/20th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/20th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/20th - 892mb - Cat 5 A bit more digging around and the Hurricane Research Division FAQ indicates: "In the Atlantic Hurricane Gilbert went from 960 mb to 888 mb in a 24 hour period for a 3 mb/hr pressure drop. The winds went from 57 to 82 m/s (110 kt to 160 kt, 127 mph to 184 mph) in that 24 hour period." Compare Wilma's 970-892mb in 10 hours (7.8mb/hr) with Gilbert's 960mb to 888mb in 24 hours (3mb/hr) and seemingly we've got a record intensification rate if I've got my maths right. If that's correct it's pretty scary - could be looking at record low. Has it been a linear drop ? t |
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Apologies to all - I was a day ahead - these are values from the NHC
analyses issued today. 21Z/18th - 970mb - Cat 1 00Z/19th - 954mb - Cat 2 03Z/19th - 945mb - Cat 2 05Z/19th - 901mb - Cat 4 06Z/19th - 901mb - Cat 4 07Z/19th - 892mb - Cat 5 09Z/19th - 884mb - Cat 5 So - 86mb in 12 hours! Richard |
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