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James E. Hansen is the NASA GISS chief. It is important to distinguish
that Hansen from JE Hansen, the physiologist, who is a reputable scientist and who has used the word "thermodynamics" many times. Thermodynamics deals with heat and work and is as important in studies of physiology as it is elsewhere. Google Scholar provides a mechanism to do a word search on the collective works of any individual. The first published use of the word thermodynamics by NASA GISS chief James E Hansen occured in 1992 in "Climate Forcing by Anthropogenic Aerosols" which can be found at: http://academic.engr.arizona.edu/HWR...s/charlson.pdf Hansen is one of six authors and he is neither the lead author nor the corresponding author. He went along for the ride. Hansen defended his Ph.D thesis in 1967. It is unpublished. However, a published account of his thesis work can be found he http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1967/...Matsushima.pdf or here http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/c...iletyp e=.pdf Word search of Hansen's Ph.D. work reveals no use of the word "thermodynamics" or phrases like "statistical analysis". Hansen has much to say on global warming and he aggregates and massages reading from 1500 thermometers, yet he is a ****ing dummy who has no respect for or understanding of thermodynamics, mathematical statistics or of any other science disciple that might make him think twice. He was hired by NASA at a time when USA was spending 4% of its GDP on the space race. He testified at a senate hearing in 1988 chaired by Al Gore, four years before his first connection with the idea of "thermodynamics". It would be charitable to describe Hansen as a pseudoscientist. NASA made a mistake to hire Hansen. |
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Leon wrote:
[some snippage] Hansen defended his Ph.D thesis in 1967. It is unpublished. However, a published account of his thesis work can be found he http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1967/...Matsushima.pdf or here http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/c..._query?db_key=... Word search of Hansen's Ph.D. work reveals no use of the word "thermodynamics" or phrases like "statistical analysis". Hansen has much to say on global warming and he aggregates and massages reading from 1500 thermometers, yet he is a ****ing dummy who has no respect for or understanding of thermodynamics, mathematical statistics or of any other science disciple that might make him think twice. He was hired by NASA at a time when USA was spending 4% of its GDP on the space race. He testified at a senate hearing in 1988 chaired by Al Gore, four years before his first connection with the idea of "thermodynamics". It would be charitable to describe Hansenas a pseudoscientist. NASA made a mistake to hire Hansen. Strong language. The title of Hansen's paper that communicates results of his Ph.D. research is: "THE ATMOSPHERE AND SURFACE TEMPERATURE OF VENUS A DUST INSULATION MODEL" Selected excerpts from Hansen's Ph.D. thesis work might help to confirm or deny whether Hansen is one whose scientific judgement is trustworthy. Exhibit A, page 1145 "In the dust insulation model, at least the lower atmosphere should be in dry adiabatic state, so that dT/dh = -g/c_p; " Hansen is correct, the dry adiabatic lapse rate, dT/dh equals the negative of the accelleration of (Venus) gravity -g divided by the heat capacity at constant pressure c_p. The major constituent of Venusian atmosphere is CO2. However, late in the same run-on sentence, Hansen wrote, "dT/dh was taken to be constant with a value (8.7 K./km) appropriate for nitrogen." Approximating the properties of a CO2 atmosphere by using properties of N2 is bad thermodynamics but Hansen is not competent in thermodynamics. Exhibit B, page 1155 in the conclusion section of Hansen's "If the surface pressure is ~20 atmospheres, then 10 gm would represent a mass about 0.05 per cent as large as that of the atmosphere above unit area." Hansen's Ph.D. thesis was an attempt to explain the surface temperature of Venus. Throughout, Hansen equivocates on the vital question of the thickness of the Venusian atmosphere with guestimates that range from less than 10 km to a final guestimate of ~20 km. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus "The atmospheric pressure at the planet's surface is 92 times that of the Earth." If Hansen had correctly guestimated the surface pressure of Venus and if he had boned up on his thermodynamics he might have been able to integrate the dry adiabatic temperature lapse rate from surface to cloud top and discovered a rather trivial thermodynamic explanation for the surface temperature of Venus. If done truthfully, his account of his Ph.D. research should have been one page long. VERDICT: Hansen knew enough about the dry adiabic temperature lapse rate get the equation correct, but he had no motivation to do a literature search for tables of c_p(p,T) known for CO2. CO2 is an important industrial gas (think beer carbonation); see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_(data_page) and contained references to thermodynamics properties of CO2. Hansen's report of his Ph.D. thesis, records for all to see, Logical Inconsistencies, an aversion to thermodynamics; and abuse of statistical analysis, to name only a short list of faults. Given his record of pseudoscience, should we place the future of planet Earth in Hansen's hands? Certainly Not. |
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On Feb 8, 9:58Â*pm, Leon wrote:
James E. Hansen is the NASA GISS chief. It is important to distinguish that Hansen from JE Hansen, the physiologist, who is a reputable scientist and who has used the word "thermodynamics" many times. Thermodynamics deals with heat and work and is as important in studies of physiology as it is elsewhere. Google Scholar provides a mechanism to do a word search on the collective works of any individual. The first published use of the word thermodynamics by NASA GISS chief James E Hansen occured in 1992 in "Climate Forcing by Anthropogenic Aerosols" which can be found at: http://academic.engr.arizona.edu/HWR...readings/charl... Hansen is one of six authors and he is neither the lead author nor the corresponding author. He went along for the ride. Hansen defended his Ph.D thesis in 1967. It is unpublished. However, a published account of his thesis work can be found he http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1967/...Matsushima.pdf or here http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/c..._query?db_key=.... Word search of Hansen's Ph.D. work reveals no use of the word "thermodynamics" or phrases like "statistical analysis". Hansen has much to say on global warming and he aggregates and massages reading from 1500 thermometers, yet he is a ****ing dummy who has no respect for or understanding of thermodynamics, mathematical statistics or of any other science disciple that might make him think twice. He was hired by NASA at a time when USA was spending 4% of its GDP on the space race. He testified at a senate hearing in 1988 chaired by Al Gore, four years before his first connection with the idea of "thermodynamics". It would be charitable to describe Hansen as a pseudoscientist. NASA made a mistake to hire Hansen. ø Algore hired him for NASA when he promised to support global warming. I believe he gets a regular paycheck from Gore as well as royalties from Gore's mockumentry. ø The issue is really irrelevant. Nobody can control the wind Nobody can control the rain or snow Nobody (collectively) can control climate. Global temps are within natural variations Oceans heating are a prelude to glaciation 
 Get used to it!! — — | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer, never on the skeptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and industry, and not by | natural causes |
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