That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

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Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low
temperatures in Ohio have risen by about 1.7 degrees Celsius (about 3
degrees Fahrenheit) since the 1960s.

Why the change? It's not just the heat, it's the humidity, the
researchers concluded -- coupled with increased cloudiness at night.

Three degrees Fahrenheit might not sound like much of an increase, but
it is -- even though daytime highs have remained mostly the same, said
Rogers, who is also the state climatologist for Ohio.

"A lot of Americans might expect that global climate change would
cause extremely high daytime temperatures in the summer," he said.
"But in Ohio at least, the high temperatures haven't been changing --
it's the overnight low temperatures that have been creeping up. That
means the average temperature over the 24-hour period is creeping up
as well."

And this is exactly how Rogers believes that climate change would
manifest itself in this region of the Midwest -- nighttime lows are
rising, so that over time there would be less difference between them
and the daytime highs.

That would mean a big change for Ohio, where a typical summer night is
20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than the day.

In fact, stronger evidence of climate change would be hard to come by
here, Rogers said: "In Ohio, we don't have a clear signal of global
change, like you have in the Arctic, where sea ice is melting. But
these rising nighttime lows are the next closest thing."

In the September 2007 issue of the Journal of Climate, Rogers and his
coauthors report a survey of more than 120 years of Ohio weather data.
Aside from a brief temperature spike during the Dust Bowl of the
1930s, nighttime temperatures remained relatively unchanged -- until
1965, when they began to rise.

[ . . . ]

The story is from:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1008183304.htm

On Oct 9, 10:31 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low
temperatures in Ohio have risen by about 1.7 degrees Celsius (about 3
degrees Fahrenheit) since the 1960s.

Why the change? It's not just the heat, it's the humidity, the
researchers concluded -- coupled with increased cloudiness at night.

Three degrees Fahrenheit might not sound like much of an increase, but
it is -- even though daytime highs have remained mostly the same, said
Rogers, who is also the state climatologist for Ohio.

"A lot of Americans might expect that global climate change would
cause extremely high daytime temperatures in the summer," he said.
"But in Ohio at least, the high temperatures haven't been changing --
it's the overnight low temperatures that have been creeping up. That
means the average temperature over the 24-hour period is creeping up
as well."

And this is exactly how Rogers believes that climate change would
manifest itself in this region of the Midwest -- nighttime lows are
rising, so that over time there would be less difference between them
and the daytime highs.

That would mean a big change for Ohio, where a typical summer night is
20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than the day.

In fact, stronger evidence of climate change would be hard to come by
here, Rogers said: "In Ohio, we don't have a clear signal of global
change, like you have in the Arctic, where sea ice is melting. But
these rising nighttime lows are the next closest thing."

In the September 2007 issue of the Journal of Climate, Rogers and his
coauthors report a survey of more than 120 years of Ohio weather data.
Aside from a brief temperature spike during the Dust Bowl of the
1930s, nighttime temperatures remained relatively unchanged -- until
1965, when they began to rise.

[ . . . ]

The story is from:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1008183304.htm

As soon as Ohio becomes the "globe", we'll buy it. Until then we'll
look for something more substantial than anecdotal crap to determine
whether or not we should spend BILLIONS on this non-existent problem.

"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low

Rogers is a well known shill taking millions from the "Carbon Credit"
industry!

On Oct 9, 11:31 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, [...]

and the study concludes:
We need MO' MONEY for MO' STUDIES.

Roger Coppock wrote:
In the September 2007 issue of the Journal of Climate, Rogers and his
coauthors report a survey of more than 120 years of Ohio weather data.
Aside from a brief temperature spike during the Dust Bowl of the
1930s, nighttime temperatures remained relatively unchanged -- until
1965, when they began to rise.

What caused the 1930's spike?

R wrote:

That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low
temperatures in Ohio have risen by about 1.7 degrees Celsius (about 3
degrees Fahrenheit) since the 1960s.

No ****, Buck Rogers, the entire Ohio Valley was 10 degrees
colder than normal all during the 1960s, 1962 might have been one
of the coldest winters in 50 years or so.

On Oct 9, 8:34 am, Tunderbar wrote:
On Oct 9, 10:31 am, Roger Coppock wrote:

That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low
temperatures in Ohio have risen by about 1.7 degrees Celsius (about 3
degrees Fahrenheit) since the 1960s.

Why the change? It's not just the heat, it's the humidity, the
researchers concluded -- coupled with increased cloudiness at night.

Three degrees Fahrenheit might not sound like much of an increase, but
it is -- even though daytime highs have remained mostly the same, said
Rogers, who is also the state climatologist for Ohio.

"A lot of Americans might expect that global climate change would
cause extremely high daytime temperatures in the summer," he said.
"But in Ohio at least, the high temperatures haven't been changing --
it's the overnight low temperatures that have been creeping up. That
means the average temperature over the 24-hour period is creeping up
as well."

And this is exactly how Rogers believes that climate change would
manifest itself in this region of the Midwest -- nighttime lows are
rising, so that over time there would be less difference between them
and the daytime highs.

That would mean a big change for Ohio, where a typical summer night is
20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than the day.

In fact, stronger evidence of climate change would be hard to come by
here, Rogers said: "In Ohio, we don't have a clear signal of global
change, like you have in the Arctic, where sea ice is melting. But
these rising nighttime lows are the next closest thing."

In the September 2007 issue of the Journal of Climate, Rogers and his
coauthors report a survey of more than 120 years of Ohio weather data.
Aside from a brief temperature spike during the Dust Bowl of the
1930s, nighttime temperatures remained relatively unchanged -- until
1965, when they began to rise.

[ . . . ]

The story is from:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1008183304.htm

As soon as Ohio becomes the "globe", we'll buy it. Until then we'll
look for something more substantial than anecdotal crap to determine
whether or not we should spend BILLIONS on this non-existent problem.


For a similar report on global scale see:
Easterling, David R., et al. "Maximum and Minimum Temperature
Trends for the Globe." SCIENCE Vol. 277. 18, July 1997: pp. 364-367.

On Oct 9, 2:26 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
R wrote:
That nighttime temperatures would increase faster
than daytime temperatures was predicted by
Arrhenius in his 1896 CO2 modeling study.

-.-. --.- Roger

=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ohio State University
Date: October 9, 2007
Evidence Of Warming Climate Found In Ohio

Science Daily - Summer nights in Ohio aren't cooling off as much as
they used to -- and it's likely a sign of climatic warming across the
state, researchers say.

Jeffrey Rogers, professor of geography at Ohio State University, led
the new study, which found that average summer nighttime low
temperatures in Ohio have risen by about 1.7 degrees Celsius (about 3
degrees Fahrenheit) since the 1960s.

No ****, Buck Rogers, the entire Ohio Valley was 10 degrees
colder than normal all during the 1960s, 1962 might have been one
of the coldest winters in 50 years or so.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This is just a guess, but I wonder how much particulate air pollution
and SO2 pollution from coal-burning power plants was wafting over Ohio
in the 1960s.

Even today, I believe that Ohio has some of the dirtiest coal-burning
electric power plants in the US. For several decades now, the
utilities responsible have built enormously tall smokestacks so that
the pollution is ejected high into the atmosphere, and travels
hundreds of miles downwind to cause acid rain problems in places like
New England.

But back in the 1960s, I think the utility smokestacks weren't so
high, and a lot of the SO2 pollution and the particulates were
released close to the power plants involved. It's pretty likely that
this kind of air pollution, by blocking incoming sunlight and
reflecting a good deal of it back into outer space, would have had a
cooling effect on Ohio at the time.

During the 1930s, on the other hand, the US economy was mostly in a
severe depression. Did we get as much airborne SO2 and particulate
pollution then, I wonder? Or would the air have been cleaner then,
because the factories weren't operating, thus allowing whatever
"greenhouse" warming was already in effect to have free play?

Are there any real scientists in here who have studied this subject?

On Oct 9, 1:12 pm, john fernbach wrote:
On Oct 9, 2:26 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
electric power plants in the US. For several decades now, the
utilities responsible have built enormously tall smokestacks so that
the pollution is ejected high into the atmosphere, and travels
hundreds of miles downwind to cause acid rain problems in places like
New England.

The reason for tall smokestacks is not to distribute
pollution, but to use convection to draw air into
the coal fire. Taller smokestacks mean higher fire
temperatures and more power generated from the same
size furnace. This was known centuries ago and was
first expressed in the architecture of manor houses.
Please see

Christianson, Gale E. Greenhouse: The 200-Year Story
of Global Warming. New York: Walker & Company, 1999.

"Bawana" wrote
We need MO' MONEY for MO' STUDIES.

That's Bush's plan for inaction. Need more studies , Bushie says, the
science is unclear.