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![]() "Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud" wrote in message ... Just take basic Physics 101, Fool ! The clockwise or anticlockwise spin in your bathtub drain is generated by the De Coriolis forces .... and the subject is well documented indeed ! Err... no. The "Coriolis force" is much too weak on these scales to have any effect on this. Which way the water goes down the plughole is determined mostly by the initial "swirl" you can hardly avoid giving it (and which is magnified by angular momentum conservation as the water is drawn to the plughole) with a possible contribution due to the shape of the bath. I have heard stories of tourists who have visited equatorial countries being amazed by demonstrations of vessels emptying through holes and the "experiment" being repeated either side of the equator. Much as I hate to spoil the local tourist trade, this is a conjuring trick using the principle of the second sentence in the above paragraph, not a scientific demonstration. Even on the scale of the tornado (about three orders of magnitude greater than that of a bath tub!) it is possible for local airflow to dominate the Coriolis force and there are well-documented reports of "anticyclonic" tornadoes in the literature. In fact the motion in a tornado is held in balance by the pressure gradient force acting inward providing the acceleration required to hold the rotating air in its circular path. Once established, this works in either direction. A hurricane is different. These *are* initially organised by the Coriolis force and indeed cannot form very close to the equator because there is no "spin" to start them going there. On this scale the principal balance is between the Coriolis force and the pressure gradient force, but there is still an extra contribution required from the pressure gradient to provide the "circular path" acceleration, which is quite significant close to the eyewall. -- - Yokel - oo oo OOO OOO OO 0 OO ) ( I ) ( ) ( /\ ) ( "Yokel" now posts via a spam-trap account. Replace my alias with stevejudd to reply. |
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