"Graham Easterling" wrote in message
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The forecasters have been going on about cold, lack of stormy weather and
the like for an age now.

But it hasn't been that cold has it? I mean, there's been some cold nights,
notably in the Somerset levels & Thames valley, but overall
http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/anomt.jpg more places have been mild of
late.

I saw a recent video clip where John Hammond went on about the lack of
storminess compared with last year. True, if you live in much of Scotland,
NW England or N Wales, so it was unfortunate that he showed a picture of a
stormy Penzance prom. Not sure when it was taken, but certainly not last
November as was implied, when the stongest gust here was just 44mph and
there were only 2 days with onshore winds. In fact pointing to an example
from SW England was a bad call as Nov 2016 has been a wetter than 2015
across much of the southern half of England. In the SW whilst nothing much
happened in November last year, the railway line was washed away in several
places this year. He should have pointed to somewhere 'up north'.

Anyway, back to the cold - or rather lack of it.
V. cold Yr Normal Yr.
Penzance 2010 2016
MIN MAX MIN MAX
24/11 2.2 9.1 5.4 12.7
25/11 0.5 6.3 7.6 10.3
26/11 2.1 7.4 7.2 10.1
27/11 0.6 4.2 3.7 9.8
28/11 -4.3! 4.6 5.7 9.7
29/11 -3.8 3.3 3.4 8.0
30/11 -2.0 3.2 0.1 10.7
01/12 -0.6 3.1 1.3 11.5
02/12 -1.5 2.3 2.5 10.4
03/12 -3.0 6.1 7.3 9.7
04/12 -0.7 8.7 8.0 11.4 (at 09:00 today)
05/12 2.8 5.8 9.3 (13.0C looks likely)

Where are people like Lamb & Philip Eden to add a bit of historically
perspective when you need them?

I think part of the issue is people now spend so much time gazing into model
forecasts, supported by a stream of MetO 'it's going to a cold, cold winter'
clips, that actual observations fall into 2nd place. I won't go into a rant
about the MetO lack of interest in observations, but if you ask me . . .

Graham
Penzance
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Well it was a cold month up here on Dartmoor (also in the SW). Hard frozen
ground on quite a few days. And there has been a distinct lack of real rain,
just one wet day in November (with over 60mm). Only 168.6mm last month in
total. Philip Eden was not respected in the MetO due to his constant sniping
from the sidelines.

Will
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Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
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